Those are good examples, Koen. I had not thought to relate the torches to the "thing" (which looks vaguely like a loaded spindle) but the similarity in postures is provocative.
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I also had not noted that the spike-like point was missing from one of them. David's observation about these two being more genitally explicit is important too. When this happens in the VMS, it always seems to be deliberate.
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I also had not noted that the spike-like point was missing from one of them. David's observation about these two being more genitally explicit is important too. When this happens in the VMS, it always seems to be deliberate.