Thunder symbols

[MichelleL11]

Essentially a floral motif, probably adapted to celestial purposes. Note that in the VM, as with the other stars, the interpretation is made extra ambiguous because the starflowers are attached to lines, just like those in marginal decorations.

In further confirmation of this, I provide this anecdote.  The University of Utrecht has uploaded all the illustrations only within their manuscript collection into one long file -- link below



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I decided I would go through these pages to see if anything struck me as related to the VM.  I didn't find anything exciting, but I did find some floral motifs at least superficially matching the possible "thunder" symbol, several of which were blue.  This is out of about 750 illustrations.

                   

Note, because I didn't find anything I wanted to follow up upon, I never determined how one was supposed to track back to the actual original document within their system from the long continuous file of single pages, which is the obvious downside to such a set up.  But maybe the collection is small enough that it isn't hard.  Maybe they want you to spring for this book --

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But to prove it wasn't just a flower-picking exercise, I also found a cool guy with medieval glasses on and a "R" initial with a dragon as the lower front "leg" -- so I attach for fun.        

Bottom line, these floral motifs were definitely in common use in multiple manuscripts beyond just the ones that we have discussed in this thread.