F66r question
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(06-08-2020, 03:29 PM)davidjackson wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Personally, I see no difference between the Voynichese above and the "Germanic" below
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The penstrokes look to be the same colour, width and strength. I think they have all been written with the same quill.
If we look at the voynichese, the "8"s have splotted in the same way as the double "s" and the "d"s below.
The whole thing seems to have been written by the same person, in the same pass. Even the image seems to have been drawn by the same quill.
Don't you think?

David, to me they look different.

The lower-left text is more uneven, more angular, the height of each letter a bit less consistent. Each word travels down slightly. It is smaller. I spend a lot of time looking at handwriting and it doesn't feel the same to me.

I am also not sure it is the same handwriting as the hand on 116v. The "m" is quite different and there are other slight differences. In scribal terms, we sometimes call this a "crabbed" handwriting (when it is small and somewhat cramped, although in this case it is not hard to read, so it is only slightly crabbed, it is not illegible).


I do agree that it looks like it might have been written with the same ink. The quill might be the same or might have been trimmed in the same way if it was a different one. Scribes probably didn't share quills very much but they did learn to cut them in much the same way.


It's difficult to judge when one line is in Voynichese and the three other lines are in something that looks like German or Saxon but if I had to place bets on it, I would guess that they are different writers.


Postscript: Now that I think about it, it MIGHT be one of the VMS scribes, but not the one that is just above it. It's possible that the "messy" scribe (I didn't assign numbers to scribes, I used adjectives) but according to Lisa Fagin Davis's system, the one I call "messy scribe" is the one she calls scribe #2.

Unfortunately, ven mus mel doesn't share a single letter with Voynichese. We can't really compare minims with "n" shapes because they might be something different. This is so typical of the VMS... the frustrating lack of overlap that might help us compare things.


Here's an example by the "messy" scribe You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. :

   
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