Discussion of Yulia May's proposed solution
#26
(29-04-2016, 06:04 PM)david wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Rotárum would be genitive plural, so of, or concerning, the wheels.

But
horoscopum habiturire de rotarum
I suppose horoscopum is supposed to be horoscope, which is actually a Greek Word. My dictionary gives genitarium for horoscope. Horoscopus is a medieval Latin word, but I don't know when it was first used. We learn something new everyday. What's habiturire? I assume it's a garbled declension of habeó, to have, but the -ire ending doesn't fit. It should be, ah..., habitúrórum to fit de rotarum.

So the sentence would read (aprox) the wheels possess our horoscopes.

A very quick back of the envelope job on the next lines:
incertarum hora, incertum sortitur-cum
uncertain time, obscure when uncertain
aurora aperturum, inauratione exerturum.
 
dawn is opened, uncovered ??? (something golden?)

But I doubt the grammar on these lines, they seem a little... schoolboyish, if you take my meaning. Not that I'm an expert.

The earliest mention about "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view." I found for this evening is in the "Astrolabium planum" of 1494. "Habiturire" = to want to have, I agree it sounds strange, so, thanks to your question I found that I missed two possible interpretation: "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view." and "ematuruero", while I'm not able to formulate how such forms could fit into this sentence, maybe (if "emutarere"), "you could be changed according to hour of vicissitudes..."
Possibly:
horoscopum habiturere de rotarum incertarum hora, incertum sortiturum aurora aperturum, 
horoscope, to want to have/ to wish from the time of vicissitudes, uncertainty drawing lots opening with dawn, 
inauratione exerturum. 
releasing (detecting) with gilding ??? 

Actually, I incline to believe that "a" in the words "chear" and "cphar" may be "o", then it can be "cheor" (venturo, ventione) and "cphor" (alienatione, alienatur), in this case: "venturo aperturum, alienatione exerturum/efferaturum."

(30-04-2016, 12:03 AM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I mean that daiin is the most frequent word across the corpus. Neither of your suggestions seem a likely candidate for that role. If that's really a word, then  that should be really some very common word as becomes to the opus of this kind. For example, it might be a word "plant" or "herb", given that a good half of the VMS is depicting plants, or it might be some general word like an article... but "territory'"... sorry, does not look convincing.

Triturum and trituram do not seem to be valid vord forms (if we mean the verb "trituro").

"trituram" - noun "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view." (singular, accusative)
"triturum" - verb "tero" (Participium Futuri Activi, neuter or accusat.)
"tritorum" - noun "tritor" (plural, genitive), adjective "tritus" ( plural, genitive)
"traditibus" - noun and adjective "traditus" (dative, ablative, plural)
Reply


Messages In This Thread
RE: Discussion of Yulia May's proposed solution - by Searcher - 30-04-2016, 12:32 AM
Theory and deciphering - by Searcher - 27-04-2016, 10:39 PM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by stellar - 08-10-2016, 05:51 AM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by Searcher - 08-10-2016, 08:40 PM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by stellar - 09-10-2016, 05:13 AM

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Another proposed solution: Caspari & Faccini (2025) ReneZ 2 3,534 19-04-2025, 06:53 PM
Last Post: ReneZ
  Anyone seen this proposed solution yet? More Hebrew... LisaFaginDavis 69 73,019 13-07-2021, 10:46 PM
Last Post: Barbrey
  Proposed solution: The Voynich manuscript unzipped lelle 43 54,611 08-09-2017, 05:00 AM
Last Post: -JKP-

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)