Discussion of Yulia May's proposed solution
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(28-04-2016, 10:20 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(28-04-2016, 09:58 AM)Searcher wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.1) otol - omnius (neutrum genus), nepos (masculine), nubens (fem., mascul., neutr.)
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As for me, the text is enigmatic and strange, but coherent in the whole manuscript.

I've long said that the abbreviation shapes are traditional Latin but that the meaning behind them may not be.

You have to ask yourself, if it can be this many interpretations, is the person choosing the interpretation the one who is creating coherency in the manuscript?

Let's say in English you have the common endings -ing -able -ly or -ed. If you add a few letters in front of them, many will become real words.


I'm afraid I don't see coherency yet (I'm willing to keep looking and to keep an open mind about this)...

As I mentioned, folio 1v has been translated into a dozen disjointed unrelated subjects with no consistent or coherent (or even note-form) grammar other than those we human beings "fill in" with our minds when we see familiar words. How many of the abbreviation+more-letters combinations look like words because the expansion of the abbreviations is already providing the foundation for a word so that anything you add to it with a basic vowel-consonant balance has a good chance of matching some word in Latin?


I'm not posing these questions to be argumentative. These are things we all have to ask ourselves when we have something the LOOKS like words but which otherwise doesn't make a lot of sense and which requires alternatives for many of the word-glyphs in order to try to make sense of it.

It is not so easy to answer all these questions, I'll  also be brief.
First of all, those characters or group of characters which I consider Latin abbreviations were detected by me before my study of Latin abbreviations. Only few of them, it seems, three correspond to real Latin abbreviations: y - as prefix (cum, con...) and as conjunction (cum); r - as suffixes (tur, ter, tor); l - as ending s, us; the rest is quite another.
The history with Kircher and his connection to the VMs  is too obscure, so I can say nothing about it.
I'm aware of the problem with number of interpretations, it is pretty big in some cases, but, generally, I think, it must be tried. For example, I take English word "proclamation". We can easily encipher this word in the Voynich cipher. May the ending "tion" will be the Voynich "r", the rest fits without changes.
So, proclamation = qokoter
Possible interpretations in English: proclamation.
The word "name" = ot
Possible interpretations: name, lum, nom, lab, nep. 
There can be many interpretations, but all of them must correspond to the time of writing, general context and supposed region.
In conclusion, I'd say it is bad idea to use Google Translator with Latin. By the way, "tradis" is not a "kiss", it means "you give" or "you pass". I'll try to translate this text myself as much as I can, but, unfortunately, I don't promise correctness. As well, there is a problem with low number of conjunctions and prepositions, but all this I wrote in my work.
You won't know if you don't try yourself. I think this is the best way to check my theory and to make a decision whether it could be or couldn't.
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RE: Discussion of Yulia May's proposed solution - by Searcher - 28-04-2016, 08:14 PM
Theory and deciphering - by Searcher - 27-04-2016, 10:39 PM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by stellar - 08-10-2016, 05:51 AM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by Searcher - 08-10-2016, 08:40 PM
RE: Theory and deciphering - by stellar - 09-10-2016, 05:13 AM

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