Number of syllables distribution
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Hello Marco

I appreciate if some of the things I've written are a little dense. I suppose Voynich X would be quite like Stolfi's Abnormal Words. Though with two differences: a) some of his words definitely would be removed from Voynich X as my syllabification has no problem with them, and 2) many more unusual syllable combinations would be captured, as both the high and low level structure would be scrutinised. I suppose in all cases, for any kind of structural test or syllabification, good results rely on both how much of the text can be shown to have a regular structure and what it reveals about those words with irregular structure.

I have to say I'm a huge fan of Stolfi, but you already know that. I wish he were still around.

Quote:This experiment seems much more approachable, but also here a few examples could be useful.
How would chey, cheeey, pchey, chol, ckhedy, chckhedy be encoded?

Of course, experimenting with and without the 'null' should be fairly easy.

I think it's best, if we're willing to use nulls, just to insert them where we think [y] is missing. We don't have to worry about [h] or [e] sequences. So only two words in your list would be altered to include [N] (null):
[ckhedy] would become [ckheNdy]
[chckhedy] would become [chNckheNdy]

To me it seems obvious that [N] would be picked out a vowel in such cases, but the test is to compare it with the version of the text without the [N]. If we can see that a) [a, y o, N] were much more strongly identified as vowels, and b) everything else was much less strongly identified as vowels, then I think it would be a success.

Basically: if we can insert [N] in a regular and predictable way does it make the result of vowel-finding algorithms clearer?

There is, of course, the problem of whether we count [ch, sh, ckh, cth, cfh, cph, e, ee, eee] as one glyph or multiple, but that's true regardless.
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Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 14-04-2019, 02:49 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 14-04-2019, 03:29 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by MarcoP - 14-04-2019, 05:20 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by MarcoP - 14-04-2019, 06:39 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Emma May Smith - 14-04-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 15-04-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by -JKP- - 15-04-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by bi3mw - 15-04-2019, 08:01 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 15-04-2019, 08:06 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 15-04-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 15-04-2019, 08:53 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 27-04-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by bi3mw - 15-04-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by -JKP- - 15-04-2019, 09:06 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 15-04-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 15-04-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 16-04-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 16-04-2019, 02:51 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by -JKP- - 16-04-2019, 02:53 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 16-04-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by -JKP- - 16-04-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 16-04-2019, 07:41 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by -JKP- - 16-04-2019, 08:14 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 17-04-2019, 10:30 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 18-04-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 19-04-2019, 09:03 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 19-04-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 20-04-2019, 09:14 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by DONJCH - 21-04-2019, 02:29 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 21-04-2019, 06:24 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 21-04-2019, 08:22 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 21-04-2019, 07:50 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 27-04-2019, 10:37 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 28-04-2019, 12:41 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by MarcoP - 28-04-2019, 08:53 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 28-04-2019, 06:28 PM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by ReneZ - 29-04-2019, 08:00 AM
RE: Number of syllables distribution - by Koen G - 29-04-2019, 08:25 AM

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