Voynich decoded completely
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Quote:M. Hoffman: "A degree in science is essential to accept the frameshifts/syntax movements; although some pages do not follow that rule, which might be due to the fact that Voynich is written by at least four different authors, and all of them obtain a different style."

For those who are not familiar with this phrase, a frame shift (in genetics) refers to a mutation that alters an expected sequence. It can be either an insertion or deletion. If it occurs early in the sequencing process, the alteration may lead to greater discrepancies later in the sequence.


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So how do we interpret the concept of a frame shift, as it is used in genetics, in relation to the VMS?
  • To begin with, M. Hoffmann has posted a chart for a substitution code in the bottom right corner that relates each VMS glyph to one, two or three letters in Latin.
  • This substitution code has then been used to transliterate the Voynich glyphs into syllables like re ur in rea, which is then interpreted to the German phrase for "Within the wound, the affected [part] burns."
"re ur in rea" is clearly not Latin vocabulary or grammar (nor is the rest of the "translation"), so we have to assume that another step is involved, one that he terms a "frame shift", which would imply that letters have been inserted or deleted to create a translation.


This final and crucial step, where one goes from nonsense syllables to readable text, has not been illustrated. To enable others to understand and substantiate the method, the "frame shift" process needs to be demonstrated. Otherwise the solution is no different from anagram solutions, where liberties are taken with the letters to turn the text into something meaningful.
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RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 03-07-2018, 10:29 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by davidjackson - 03-07-2018, 10:44 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Paris - 03-07-2018, 10:44 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 03-07-2018, 10:46 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by VViews - 03-07-2018, 11:46 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 01:53 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 04-07-2018, 06:01 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 11:11 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 04-07-2018, 12:03 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 06:14 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 04-07-2018, 10:42 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Wladimir D - 04-07-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Wladimir D - 04-07-2018, 05:40 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Common_Man - 04-07-2018, 06:32 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Wladimir D - 04-07-2018, 08:19 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 04-07-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 04-07-2018, 10:16 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by davidjackson - 04-07-2018, 10:54 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 05-07-2018, 12:15 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 05-07-2018, 11:44 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by bi3mw - 04-07-2018, 11:45 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Hubert Dale - 05-07-2018, 11:05 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 05-07-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 05-07-2018, 12:36 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 05-07-2018, 12:53 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 05-07-2018, 03:23 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 05-07-2018, 03:31 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 05-07-2018, 09:30 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Searcher - 05-07-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 06-07-2018, 07:53 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 06-07-2018, 10:36 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Common_Man - 06-07-2018, 09:02 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Searcher - 06-07-2018, 09:07 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 06-07-2018, 11:22 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by DONJCH - 06-07-2018, 09:31 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 10-07-2018, 10:36 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nickpelling - 06-07-2018, 12:12 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 06-07-2018, 12:33 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 06-07-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by davidjackson - 06-07-2018, 01:17 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by davidjackson - 06-07-2018, 11:03 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 10-07-2018, 11:03 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 10-07-2018, 12:23 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Searcher - 10-07-2018, 12:27 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 10-07-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 11-07-2018, 01:59 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Common_Man - 18-07-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by VViews - 18-07-2018, 01:11 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 18-07-2018, 04:20 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by DONJCH - 18-07-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 18-07-2018, 09:49 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by davidjackson - 18-07-2018, 05:22 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by DONJCH - 18-07-2018, 05:43 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 19-07-2018, 08:43 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 19-07-2018, 09:04 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 19-07-2018, 12:52 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 19-07-2018, 03:33 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 18-07-2018, 10:49 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Hubert Dale - 19-07-2018, 11:26 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Davidsch - 19-07-2018, 11:52 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by DONJCH - 20-07-2018, 12:39 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 20-07-2018, 01:22 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 20-07-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by MarcoP - 21-07-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Hubert Dale - 21-07-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 20-07-2018, 10:55 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 21-07-2018, 12:44 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 21-07-2018, 05:16 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 21-07-2018, 08:07 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 21-07-2018, 08:12 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 21-07-2018, 08:27 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 26-07-2018, 02:27 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 26-07-2018, 02:56 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 26-07-2018, 04:17 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 26-07-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 26-07-2018, 06:07 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Hubert Dale - 26-07-2018, 06:24 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by doranchak - 27-07-2018, 02:01 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 26-07-2018, 08:36 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 27-07-2018, 07:18 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 31-07-2018, 08:42 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 01-08-2018, 11:09 PM
Butterbur on page 25 - by Dr. Michael Hoffmann - 16-10-2018, 10:32 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 16-10-2018, 03:59 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 16-10-2018, 04:25 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Wolfgang99 - 26-10-2018, 07:47 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Diane - 04-11-2018, 04:54 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Diane - 04-11-2018, 06:02 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 06-11-2018, 09:52 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 08-12-2018, 12:20 PM
Voynich page 65 - by Dr. Michael Hoffmann - 13-01-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Voynich page 65 - by voynichbombe - 31-05-2019, 08:40 PM
page 69 - Phyteuma - by Dr. Michael Hoffmann - 15-01-2019, 07:06 PM
RE: page 69 - Phyteuma - by -JKP- - 15-01-2019, 07:49 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 28-05-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 28-05-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 28-05-2019, 07:23 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Hallfiry - 28-05-2019, 08:23 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by -JKP- - 28-05-2019, 08:46 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by dfs346 - 06-12-2023, 07:28 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Mark Knowles - 06-12-2023, 09:41 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Scarecrow - 07-12-2023, 11:06 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Rafal - 07-12-2023, 02:00 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 07-12-2023, 02:51 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 07-12-2023, 08:32 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 08-12-2023, 01:21 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Mark Knowles - 08-12-2023, 01:43 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 08-12-2023, 01:45 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 08-12-2023, 09:21 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 08-12-2023, 09:49 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by R. Sale - 08-12-2023, 09:17 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 08-12-2023, 11:55 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 09-12-2023, 09:37 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Anton - 09-12-2023, 11:55 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by R. Sale - 10-12-2023, 12:35 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 10-12-2023, 01:04 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Mark Knowles - 10-12-2023, 07:13 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by MarcoP - 10-12-2023, 10:47 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by MarcoP - 10-12-2023, 04:58 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by tavie - 10-12-2023, 11:54 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Mark Knowles - 11-12-2023, 03:06 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Koen G - 11-12-2023, 08:25 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by ReneZ - 11-12-2023, 06:56 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by Scarecrow - 11-12-2023, 10:22 AM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by nablator - 11-12-2023, 06:53 PM
RE: Voynich decoded completely - by R. Sale - 11-12-2023, 09:47 PM

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