19-12-2017, 09:41 AM
THanks to all for the various pictures, which show clearly that the item about 'dew claws' can't be used to decide whether the browsing animals are meant for sheep or for goats, since both sheep and goats have them.
Good point. I'd only encountered dew-claws as the residual toe-and-claw in dogs and cats -should have looked up wikipedia.
I didn't start the thread about that, though. It was about animals which do, in fact, browse versus those who graze, and the relative frequency with which European and other breeds do that.
The point of my second illustration was that in one part of medieval Europe, at least, a breed of sheep was known which does graze, which has horns that could be mistaken for goat's horns, and which (as shown in that sculpture) indicates some knowledge of fat-tailed breeds in mainland Europe.
The last point is relevant because another fat-tailed breed appears to me indicated by the drawing on f.116v.
I'm afraid that when comparisons are offered from manuscripts and printed books, I tend to pay most attention to the temporal and geographic range the researcher shows they have investigated.
Anyway, my question to Rene seems to have been overlooked, or Rene distracted from it, so I'll ask again for his assistance:
Good point. I'd only encountered dew-claws as the residual toe-and-claw in dogs and cats -should have looked up wikipedia.
I didn't start the thread about that, though. It was about animals which do, in fact, browse versus those who graze, and the relative frequency with which European and other breeds do that.
The point of my second illustration was that in one part of medieval Europe, at least, a breed of sheep was known which does graze, which has horns that could be mistaken for goat's horns, and which (as shown in that sculpture) indicates some knowledge of fat-tailed breeds in mainland Europe.
The last point is relevant because another fat-tailed breed appears to me indicated by the drawing on f.116v.
I'm afraid that when comparisons are offered from manuscripts and printed books, I tend to pay most attention to the temporal and geographic range the researcher shows they have investigated.
Anyway, my question to Rene seems to have been overlooked, or Rene distracted from it, so I'll ask again for his assistance:
Quote:Rene, could you please say more about Pamela Richards and that other person - especially when and where we can read their comments and any other insights they may have had.
A link would be ideal, or a book reference, if you found in by reading a book. Even a rough idea of when, or where you read those statements - was that what you meant to say when referring back to Santacoloma's mailing list? But it would be most value to be able to read and cite the original source, since otherwise it sounds insubstantial.
Can you recall any details of where or when you read/heard those people share their opinions?
Thank you in advance.