19-10-2017, 09:54 PM
Btw, Dr. Damschen was the person who many years ago made a passing suggestion for the label to be "lab" in f116v. Nice that he is still active in Voynich studies.
However, I can't see how it could be "archic" or "multas" from the script point of view. I think that quite often there are two "flawed" directions in these marginalia interpretation. Either one proposes something valid in terms of language but ignores the way the letters are inscribed, or one is correct (to the degree possible) with the letters, but suggests something not very propable in terms of language.
With many pages of this thread (and much more pages elsewhere and years behind) discussing You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. it's perhaps amusing to propose a "clean start", but anyway what could I suggest?
Let's say we take "anchiton" as the starting point. At least "anchiton" makes sense in context with gates ("portas"), as shown earlier in this thread, and anchiton is a noun. After all, it may be not "anchiton", but, say, "michi ton", but one needs a starting point, and from all possible starting points anchiton looks to me the most solid one.
Now, let's suppose, from the fact that it is a noun and from its position in the line that anchiton is the subject of the sentence, or maybe the addressee. Even if it is not a noun but adjective relating to "oladabas", with oladabas being the real subject, anchiton and oladabas form the subject (or addressee) together.
Then we have "multos"/"multes" and "te". After that the sentence turns into something not very legible, until it comes to "portas". But let's try to reconstruct the stuff based on the assumption of anchiton as the subject/addressee and "multos" and "te" as word forms. "Multos" is plural accusative for "multus" (many, much). "Te" is ablative for "tu" (you).
What means ablative of "tu" in this context? It would mean that something happens "from you" or "out of you", with this "you" being anchiton if anchiton is the addressee, or being the reader if it is the reader who is the addressee of the message, instead of anchiton.
In other words, something is happening there "from/out of" the reader or the anchiton.
Now, irrespectively to what is the "multus" about (i.e. many or much of what is meant here), what would the accusative mean here? What context would welcome accusative?
However, I can't see how it could be "archic" or "multas" from the script point of view. I think that quite often there are two "flawed" directions in these marginalia interpretation. Either one proposes something valid in terms of language but ignores the way the letters are inscribed, or one is correct (to the degree possible) with the letters, but suggests something not very propable in terms of language.
With many pages of this thread (and much more pages elsewhere and years behind) discussing You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. it's perhaps amusing to propose a "clean start", but anyway what could I suggest?
Let's say we take "anchiton" as the starting point. At least "anchiton" makes sense in context with gates ("portas"), as shown earlier in this thread, and anchiton is a noun. After all, it may be not "anchiton", but, say, "michi ton", but one needs a starting point, and from all possible starting points anchiton looks to me the most solid one.
Now, let's suppose, from the fact that it is a noun and from its position in the line that anchiton is the subject of the sentence, or maybe the addressee. Even if it is not a noun but adjective relating to "oladabas", with oladabas being the real subject, anchiton and oladabas form the subject (or addressee) together.
Then we have "multos"/"multes" and "te". After that the sentence turns into something not very legible, until it comes to "portas". But let's try to reconstruct the stuff based on the assumption of anchiton as the subject/addressee and "multos" and "te" as word forms. "Multos" is plural accusative for "multus" (many, much). "Te" is ablative for "tu" (you).
What means ablative of "tu" in this context? It would mean that something happens "from you" or "out of you", with this "you" being anchiton if anchiton is the addressee, or being the reader if it is the reader who is the addressee of the message, instead of anchiton.
In other words, something is happening there "from/out of" the reader or the anchiton.
Now, irrespectively to what is the "multus" about (i.e. many or much of what is meant here), what would the accusative mean here? What context would welcome accusative?


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