JKP
Since I begin by checking my own collection, and when I go to the online 'G/gle' or whatever, I have the original's description beside me, in which the object's provenance is given, it's easier for me than it must be if you have to start from scratch.
Often the objects I have photos of myself are ones in museum collections, and it can be a real pain when the same object isnt available online.
I think the city you mean is the port which medieval people called 'Zayton" or "Zaitun". If you search for those the alternatives will surely be given too.
A while ago I posted about it, and the fact that an Italian girl's tombstone was disovered there well before anyone had thought Italian traders had gone so far. On the other hand, John of Montecorvino mentions that a physician from Italy (Bologna, if I recall.. but that I'd have to check) had been where Montecorvino was - in capital, inland - and been speaking about the disruptions to the papacy which led to the move to Avignon.
Also, there is another tombstone there - I posted it as a postcard in 2013 I think - which has a really fascinating script. No-one commented or anything, but I do wish some of the palaeographers and linguists would consider it.
Also - just btw. As far as matching the containers went - I found every design element present, together, in Buddhist artefacts, and illustrated them across the range from central Asia to the far east. None from Chinese territory, though. I think the period when the originals were drawn is no later than the 10thC AD at latest (because of a reference, as I see it to footbinding in the botanical section), and were it not for that, I'd be more inclined to have them earlier.
Anyway, the journey is a pleasure in itself, no matter how many have passed before. Enjoy.
Since I begin by checking my own collection, and when I go to the online 'G/gle' or whatever, I have the original's description beside me, in which the object's provenance is given, it's easier for me than it must be if you have to start from scratch.
Often the objects I have photos of myself are ones in museum collections, and it can be a real pain when the same object isnt available online.
I think the city you mean is the port which medieval people called 'Zayton" or "Zaitun". If you search for those the alternatives will surely be given too.
A while ago I posted about it, and the fact that an Italian girl's tombstone was disovered there well before anyone had thought Italian traders had gone so far. On the other hand, John of Montecorvino mentions that a physician from Italy (Bologna, if I recall.. but that I'd have to check) had been where Montecorvino was - in capital, inland - and been speaking about the disruptions to the papacy which led to the move to Avignon.
Also, there is another tombstone there - I posted it as a postcard in 2013 I think - which has a really fascinating script. No-one commented or anything, but I do wish some of the palaeographers and linguists would consider it.
Also - just btw. As far as matching the containers went - I found every design element present, together, in Buddhist artefacts, and illustrated them across the range from central Asia to the far east. None from Chinese territory, though. I think the period when the originals were drawn is no later than the 10thC AD at latest (because of a reference, as I see it to footbinding in the botanical section), and were it not for that, I'd be more inclined to have them earlier.
Anyway, the journey is a pleasure in itself, no matter how many have passed before. Enjoy.