If it feels like an Alberti Cipher it is one!
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(06-05-2017, 07:30 PM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Stellar, the problem with this cipher is exactly the same as with your previous one. If you let a thousand people solve it, you will get a thousand different results. But instead of explaining it once again, I'll tell you how to experience it.

Your proposal is built on the following premises:
  1. The VM is written in encoded Latin
  2. It is an Alberti cipher
  3. It is not a one-way cipher, which means that the recipient should be able to retrieve the encoded message unambiguously.
The third part is crucial, since the definition of a one-way cipher implies that it cannot be deciphered. 


If your proposed solution is correct, or has any merit to it whatsoever, you should be able to complete the following challenge:
  1. Print You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
  2. Make a physical version of your cipher disk - this should be easy with paper, I assume.
  3. Step away from all electronic devices, use no internet, apps or other tools that would have been unavailable to a 15th century recipient.
  4. Using pen, paper, your cipher disk and your proposed method, decipher the page.
  5. Time how long this takes you.
  6. Emerge from the woods victorious, with the solution to the Voynich and the proof of your method in your hands.
I promise you that it will not work, but feel free to prove me wrong.

Quote:@Koen It is not a one-way cipher, which means that the recipient should be able to retrieve the encoded message unambiguously.


I see what your saying, but maybe your we are both right and wrong.  What I mean is if you read my other bottom post.  Duke Ercole could have been privy to the Alberti cipher yet used it in Latin without the VMS glyphs for messengers which were delivered in cipher text for strategic use.  Of course both user and recipients had the cipher disks with the shift and same letters around the disk.  All that was need for the message delivered was in cipher text.  

Later on Ercole wrote a memoir and changed it to VMS like I have done on the disk and the Latin words I'm using are high frequency or low frequency which match.  Perhaps Ercole did not care to ever read his autobiography.  All speculation for now and I know you guys don't like it but traditional methods have failed and my out the box approach may prove correct.
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RE: If it feels like an Alberti Cipher it is one! - by coded - 06-05-2017, 10:01 PM

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