[Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium

[ReneZ]

I tried to find "Dipsacus fullonum" ( wild Teasel or Fuller's Teasel ), but without success. Actually, I hoped folio 12v could be considered ( top image ), but now I'm at a loss how to proceed. Any ideas where it's worth a closer look ?

The herb at the top of follio 12v is Pseudo-Apuleius herb nr. 25 (Howald-Sigerist numbering), which is called Camellea (at least in this herbal tradition).  (The name is also there in red).

Translating the French name I have for this herb: Chardon a Foulon, results in Fuller's Thistle, so that wasn't at all a bad guess......