Posts: 2,247Threads: 177 Member details
Posts: 2,247
Threads: 177
Thanks Received: 394 in 324 posts
Thanks Given: 893
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
0
Country:
A good pair of horns is hard to find.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Another from Hagenau:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Pierre de Bauffremont
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Winner: Best Smile
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Posts: 10,535Threads: 432 Member details
Posts: 10,535
Threads: 432
Thanks Received: 4,932 in 2,807 posts
Thanks Given: 4867
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation:
11
Country:
One of the mss we saw earlier had Moses with some really nice and long lyre-shaped horns. It was a strange sight.
Posts: 2,247Threads: 177 Member details
Posts: 2,247
Threads: 177
Thanks Received: 394 in 324 posts
Thanks Given: 893
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
0
Country:
Is this real?? It says Hagenau c. 1441-1449
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Posts: 10,535Threads: 432 Member details
Posts: 10,535
Threads: 432
Thanks Received: 4,932 in 2,807 posts
Thanks Given: 4867
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation:
11
Country:
I don't have to look up the MS to say that this is certainly real.
Posts: 1,238Threads: 18 Member details
Posts: 1,238
Threads: 18
Thanks Received: 378 in 280 posts
Thanks Given: 725
Joined: Jun 2016
Reputation:
2
Country:
(03-01-2025, 04:42 AM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Is this real?? It says Hagenau c. 1441-1449
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Universitätsbibliothek Heidelberg, Cod. Pal. germ. 19 Bibel, dt.: AT (Bücher Mose, Josua, Richter) (Hagenau - Werkstatt Diebold Lauber, 1441-1449)
I think it says
You can read the third book and read the first chapter
Posts: 2,247Threads: 177 Member details
Posts: 2,247
Threads: 177
Thanks Received: 394 in 324 posts
Thanks Given: 893
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
0
Country:
It's starting to look like the Lauber folks had a thing with lyre-shaped horns. First the brazen bull, then a couple of heraldic crests, and now this Moses (with sunglasses?)
The list of Lauber manuscripts had a fair number of Bibles. Potential biblical illustrations of interest might include other drawings of Moses, the bull in the nativity, and the bull associated with St. Luke. I wonder how far this goes.
Posts: 67Threads: 2 Member details
Posts: 67
Threads: 2
Thanks Received: 17 in 13 posts
Thanks Given: 5
Joined: Aug 2023
Reputation:
0
(03-01-2025, 10:16 PM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's starting to look like the Lauber folks had a thing with lyre-shaped horns. First the brazen bull, then a couple of heraldic crests, and now this Moses (with sunglasses?)
The list of Lauber manuscripts had a fair number of Bibles. Potential biblical illustrations of interest might include other drawings of Moses, the bull in the nativity, and the bull associated with St. Luke. I wonder how far this goes.
I find it remarkable that even Michaelangelo gave Moses horns, apparently due to a misinterpretation of the Bible.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Regards,
Dana Scott
Posts: 2,606Threads: 121 Member details
Posts: 2,606
Threads: 121
Thanks Received: 1,485 in 941 posts
Thanks Given: 1198
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation:
6
Location: OWL
Country:
(offtopic)
Text for a portrait of Moses by Michelangelo:
It [the statue] shows Moses returning from Mount Sinai with the tablets of the law at the moment when he finds the Israelites dancing around the golden calf. The horns on his head are the result of a translation error: in the original Hebrew text, which has no vowels, the word is “krn”. When vowels were later added to the text, two “e ”s were inserted. The word “krn” becomes “keren”, which means “horned”.
The following 1 user says Thank You to bi3mw for this post:1 user says Thank You to bi3mw for this post
• Linda
Posts: 2,247Threads: 177 Member details
Posts: 2,247
Threads: 177
Thanks Received: 394 in 324 posts
Thanks Given: 893
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
0
Country:
Even more offtopic, but not really.
I read an interesting thread, they used qaran and qeren. Qeren means horned, but for qaran, the best choice might be 'radiant'. In the Bible there are more than 80 uses of qrn where 'horned' is corect....., but when it comes to Moses coming down the mountain - radiant seems the better choice.
Apparently, the author of this text was trying to pull a pun, but the translator missed it entirely. Having horns was a sign of divinity at the time but has since been given a more demonic interpretation.
Consider it a level of sophistication that fails, like a joke that is 'over one's head'.
Posts: 67Threads: 2 Member details
Posts: 67
Threads: 2
Thanks Received: 17 in 13 posts
Thanks Given: 5
Joined: Aug 2023
Reputation:
0
(04-01-2025, 12:30 AM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Even more offtopic, but not really.
I read an interesting thread, they used qaran and qeren. Qeren means horned, but for qaran, the best choice might be 'radiant'. In the Bible there are more than 80 uses of qrn where 'horned' is corect....., but when it comes to Moses coming down the mountain - radiant seems the better choice.
Apparently, the author of this text was trying to pull a pun, but the translator missed it entirely. Having horns was a sign of divinity at the time but has since been given a more demonic interpretation.
Consider it a level of sophistication that fails, like a joke that is 'over one's head'.
Perhaps there is an implied thread leading back to Isis? Or not.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
|