Duplicates have been removed:
WD 4 (duplicate of MK 65). Wladimir was the only one who had a rating entered (WD 4: 1 vs. MK 65: 2). No comments entered.
WD 6 (duplicate of ThP 4). Wladimir was the only one who had a rating entered and it matched the one on ThP 4. No comments entered.
Comments comparison and the individual comments sheets have been accordingly adjusted.
All matches in the rating sheet have been checked and no other duplicates found.
Question: when I use the green arrows for sorting, will this only affect the way I see the document (i.e. leave it unsorted for others)?
Also, I am currently transcribing the rest of ELV's notebooks with Marco, and she tentatively suggests You are not allowed to view links.
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My original list I haven't shared. What I did originally is I made a list of the 3 or 4 closest matches for each herb then I looked to see if any of them could possibly match if not I did not add this herb to the list of matches otherwise I close the best match.
This plant may well be an instance where I thought there was a better match.
I couldn't find any You are not allowed to view links.
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I am pretty sure that I matched the small plant. (I can link to my original match list??)
I see, you matched it to You are not allowed to view links.
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(06-11-2023, 11:42 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Question: when I use the green arrows for sorting, will this only affect the way I see the document (i.e. leave it unsorted for others)?
The green arrows are for filtering to narrow the data displayed and yes, if you don't clear the filter when done (i.e. clear it then click select all so all the data is once again displayed), then the filtered view is what the next person editing will see. But that is an easy fix and it's obvious when filtering is in use. If one were to re-sort the data instead of using the filter, then that would be more difficult to fix and might even require reverting to a previous version of the workbook (re-sorting is also visible to others accessing the workbook). But I think only you and I can re-sort the data.
(06-11-2023, 01:10 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I couldn't find any You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the document, though I used the search function and I'm not sure how well that works. I would probably include this match though. If you ignore the jarring color difference, I find the similarities strong enough for consideration (though far from perfect).
The easiest way to find if a particular folio is already referenced is by filtering column E (VN Folio Browser) because that column contains all the folio numbers referenced in the ratings sheet. This is how I found the duplicates. First, clear the filter, then type "f28v" in the search field and a list of matches will appear below, which in this case is none. If you only type in "f28" without the "v", you will see that You are not allowed to view links.
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David has fixed the Folio Browser so that it now contains f87v, which was missing previously. There were 3 rows in the ratings sheet that were affected by this but I have updated the links and tested them and they're working.
As discussed extensively in this thread, several plant drawings in the Herbal section have "echoes" in the Pharma section.
One notable example is the plant on Herbal You are not allowed to view links.
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Login to view. (H) that is extremely similar to the one at the bottom right corner of Pharma f102r1 (P). It is not just the same plant, but largely the same drawing. Even the number of branches (2) and the way they curve down is basically the same.
The main differences are:
- H has a flower (and either a black berry or a black flower core). P has no flower.
- H has a full set of ~25 leaves. P has only five leaves, and branches are truncated.
- The leaves of H have stalks of varying lengths, many even zero. The leaves of P all have stalks half as long as the leaves.
- The leaves of H taper towards the base, so that the two "ears" (auriculae) of each leaf are right next to the stalk. The leaves of P are widest at the base, so that the two auriculae are well separated from the stalk.
- The root of H has three similar "lobes", each drawn as a stubby cylinder with flat end (presumed round, but turned away from the reader, so that only half of the rim is visible). The root of P has a background lobe that looks roughly like that, but the other two lobes are replaced by a spread-out lump with two modest humps, whose bottom and distal edges are outside the page.
- On the root of H, the outlines and hatchings of the three lobes are quite varied. On the root of P, the hatching is uniform over the whole root.
- The root of H has tendrils (rootlets) sprouting from the ends of each lobe and from the bottom of the two front lobes. The root of P has rootlets sprouting from the top of two lobes only.
- The root tendrils of H are either shaped like sharp claws or like long uniform threads drooping down. The root tendrils of P are sharp straight triangular spines.
Obviously either P was copied from H, or H from P, or both were copied from the same original drawing. Can we tell which of these alternatives is correct?
All the best, --stolfi
(11-11-2025, 10:22 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Obviously either P was copied from H, or H from P, or both were copied from the same original drawing. Can we tell which of these alternatives is correct?
Or P and H were both copied from the same original plant.