Emma May Smith > 22-09-2016, 01:53 PM
(22-09-2016, 01:37 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you, Emma. I knew this, but it didn't hurt to have it refreshed
Let me use the proper terminology then, and redirect it back to the solution proposed in this thread:
Is it likely that the proposed language(s) does not allow k or t in the coda?
Koen G > 22-09-2016, 02:01 PM
MarcoP > 22-09-2016, 02:23 PM
(22-09-2016, 02:01 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco - what I'm asking is about the solution proposed by escape. Assigning the sounds k and t to gallows has consequences. Just looking up some Aramaic words on wikipedia, I see for example: כתבת kiṯḇeṯ, I wrote. In other words, the sound t is totally allowed in the coda.
I know for a fact that at least modern Turkish allows both k and t in the coda.
And so on...
This is a problem for the present, and indeed most, proposed solutions. That's what I'm trying to get to here.
Diane > 22-09-2016, 02:38 PM
Emma May Smith > 22-09-2016, 02:45 PM
(22-09-2016, 02:38 PM)Diane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks, Emma and Koen,
It's great to see a conversation develop like this. As a non-linguist member, it's just the sort of thing which helps us non-specialists balance the for and against arguments relating to any linguistic proposition.
Emma, do you feel that the way Mingrelian language works conforms to the patterns of the Voynich text? Is it worth exploring further, do you think?
Diane > 22-09-2016, 03:01 PM
Emma May Smith > 22-09-2016, 03:34 PM
ThomasCoon > 22-09-2016, 06:02 PM
escape > 22-09-2016, 06:16 PM
(22-09-2016, 06:02 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I once wondered about a Turkic solution. The agglutinative feature of the language family resembles what we see in Voynichese:
yat-
yatmak
yatık
yatak
yatay
yatkın
yatır-
yatırmak
yatırım
yatırımcı
göz
gözlük
gözlükçü
gözlükçülük
gözle-
gözlem
gözlemci
gözlemek
gözetlemek
The only problem is that Turkic words are often 8-10 letters long while VMS words rarely get that length.
Semitic languages (like escape's Aramaic) have an "infix" feature similar to Voynichese (qokey - qokeey - qokedy - qokeody) but as Koen points out, Voynich "consonants" have a different distribution than Semitic ones.
escape > 22-09-2016, 07:21 PM