R. Sale > 27-07-2016, 11:48 PM
-JKP- > 28-07-2016, 07:31 AM
(26-07-2016, 12:11 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Don't know who first noticed nebuly lines in the VMS, but this is a subject that has been discussed quite long ago.
Btw, last year I You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. a post aiming to summarize all cloudband occurrences in the VMS. I provide an example there from Basel A II 2, which was written in 1397.
MarcoP > 28-07-2016, 09:26 AM
(27-07-2016, 10:17 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The central rosette of the f86 (Rosettes) contains three artistic ornaments: bulbs, wavy (nebuly) lines and rays
Searcher > 28-07-2016, 11:12 AM
(28-07-2016, 09:26 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-07-2016, 10:17 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The central rosette of the f86 (Rosettes) contains three artistic ornaments: bulbs, wavy (nebuly) lines and rays
I would also mention the prominent "pipes". I think the image on the right appears in Don's collection. According to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., it represents the four winds and comes from Konrad Kyeser, Bellifortis, Germany 15th century, Besançon, Bibliothèque municipale, ms. 1360, fol. 4v.
R. Sale > 28-07-2016, 07:22 PM
Linda > 29-07-2016, 08:54 AM
don of tallahassee > 29-07-2016, 02:55 PM
don of tallahassee > 29-07-2016, 04:09 PM
(28-07-2016, 07:22 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Re: "I am suggesting that where a valid reference system exists and appears to be applicable, why not try it and see how it goes?"
Dear Mr. Sale,
How do you think the VMS should be attacked using the apparent discoveries you have shown to us?
Do we use the Popes' names to somehow decode the manuscript's text?
Do we search for other images with heraldic references (however veiled) in or to the VMS images or text?
Can you show any method whereby an acceptable solution can be (or might be) reached?
You have been advocating the use of heraldry as the basis for a solution for years. Yet you have given no guidance on how the information you have ferreted out is to be used in relation to such a solution.
If you have been unable to find any additional points of comparison or avenues of attack after several years of trying, what is it you hope that we can do?
I think I understand your comparisons having to do with the popes, red hats and the heraldic designs. I just don't understand what you expect the rest of us to do with the information.
Do you have any reasoning why most of the other heraldic-looking devices in the VMS do not seem to be associated with any popes, leaders, nobility or families? Lacking such similarities or associations, don't you think it possible your arguments may be specious and hopes are futile?
As you know, I applaud anyone trying to find a viable solution using the facts presented by the VMS, itself. I have tried to offer help to several people in the past. I have offered to try to help you in the past.
You have again indicated a need for our help.
How can I help you? How can any of us help you? We don't seem to know.
Thank you.
Don of Tallahassee
R. Sale > 29-07-2016, 10:05 PM
don of tallahassee > 30-07-2016, 12:20 AM