Koen G > 28-02-2023, 05:53 PM
(28-02-2023, 04:18 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."Two two for twenty two" - I think this positional expression is out of scope of the medieval mindset.
Ahmet Ardıç > 28-02-2023, 06:49 PM
Searcher > 28-02-2023, 07:43 PM
(28-02-2023, 05:53 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That would be fine, but this method only assumes ten words (for nine digits + zero), there are many more variants of repeated words in the text. Even if it supposes the use of words for such numbers as ten, hundred, thousand, million, etc., there are too many different doubled or tripled words.(28-02-2023, 04:18 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."Two two for twenty two" - I think this positional expression is out of scope of the medieval mindset.
I was wondering about that too. Still something along these lines might be worth considering, since maybe the VM does not have dedicated single symbols for numerals. Do you think in that case their only option would be to write out "twenty two" in full instead of some verbose way of writing numerals?
Arichichi > 01-03-2023, 12:00 AM
(28-02-2023, 07:43 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(28-02-2023, 05:53 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That would be fine, but this method only assumes ten words (for nine digits + zero), there are many more variants of repeated words in the text...(28-02-2023, 04:18 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."Two two for twenty two" - I think this positional expression is out of scope of the medieval mindset.
I was wondering about that too. Still something along these lines might be worth considering, since maybe the VM does not have dedicated single symbols for numerals. Do you think in that case their only option would be to write out "twenty two" in full instead of some verbose way of writing numerals?
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olkedy olkedy (1)
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okedy okedy (4)
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chedy chedy (11)
shedy shedy (8)
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chdy chdy (4)
qokchdy qokchdy (2)
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dain dain (2)
otain otain (3)
okain okain (1)
qokain qokain (3)
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okaiin okaiin (4)
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okal okal (2)
qokal qokal (3)
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qol qol (4)
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Anton > 01-03-2023, 12:24 AM
(28-02-2023, 05:53 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.maybe the VM does not have dedicated single symbols for numerals. Do you think in that case their only option would be to write out "twenty two" in full instead of some verbose way of writing numerals
Arichichi > 01-03-2023, 01:52 AM
Koen G > 01-03-2023, 11:01 AM
(01-03-2023, 12:24 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That's more a question for specialists in, so to speak, languages with undeveloped scripts. I don't know if there are examples of languages that lack dedicated symbols for numerals in writing. Historically letters were used for numerals for a long time. This is true for Latin or e.g for Cyrillic stuff like Russian. And I think for Greek and Hebrew as well. That was basically the language's response to the challenge of not having dedicated symbols for digits. But even supposing one does not have dedicated symbols, he would not express it in this strange positional way. He would put it in writing just as he is used to it orally. If he says "twenty two", he would write "twenty two", not "two two".
Furthermore - of course I never paid much attention to it and I may be wrong - but I fancy that, in contemporary European MSs, digits (whether Arabic or Roman) are typically used in tables and drawings, while within the flow of text they are typically expressed "verbatim". Like, when one needs to say "three drops", he usually writes "three drops", not "3 drops".
Arichichi > 01-03-2023, 01:06 PM
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