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• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  Jimmy123 > 12-07-2026, 07:44 AM

  Just for curiosity, can we list some other places where there is eva qo?
  
  I only know LS51 cipher document that has this symbols

• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  DG97EEB > 25-08-2026, 04:15 PM

  And here's one from a 15th Century Florentine Merchant's diplomatic cipher..
  
  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. (Page 93)

• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  Mark Knowles > 25-08-2026, 04:43 PM

  (25-08-2026, 04:15 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And here's one from a 15th Century Florentine Merchant's diplomatic cipher..
  
  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. (Page 93)

  
  This is a well-known example. I can provide the original reconstruction of Gabrielli.
  
  Listing all examples in 15th century ciphers of 4o(EVA qo) symbols would be a daunting task. What is more interesting would be to find examples of benched-gallows characters in 15th century manuscripts. I have come close to that with one example, but I would be keen to find even better examples.

• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  JoJo_Jost > Yesterday, 06:41 AM

  Just so there are no misunderstandings here.
  
  
  ‘qo’ and language
  
  ‘qo’ occurs 99.6 per cent of the time at the start of a word. It does not occur elsewhere within a word.
  It cannot therefore represent a natural letter, because in almost every language letters also occur within words.
  
  ‘qo’ is not independent. There is an extremely narrow sequence of glyphs: initial ‘qo’ -> ‘k’ 59.8 per cent, ‘t’ 22.3 per cent (the gallows together 82 per cent).
  
  This makes it even less likely that it is encoded as a letter and, of course, makes ‘qo’ as a word very, very unlikely....
  
  Just as an aside...

• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  tavie > 4 hours ago

  I've moved two pages' worth of posts that seemed to revolve around Aga's theory to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..  
  
  If anyone wants a thread on whether "qo" or "q" can be a plaintext letter, feel free to start one.

• RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher

  DG97EEB > 3 hours ago

  I was actually interested less for the 4o but for the b and c which are gallows primitive and the m which is an upside down 9 ..
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