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A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
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A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
ReneLueth > 6 hours ago
Hello,
I would like to present a structured approach I have been working on regarding recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript.
My focus is not on a full linguistic translation, but on identifying stable, high-frequency token clusters and analyzing their functional role within the text.
The method is based on a fixed mapping of recurring sequences, applied consistently without interpretative adjustments.
When applying this approach, the text begins to show repeatable procedural structures, often following patterns such as:
substance → process → transformation
I am fully aware that many approaches to the Voynich manuscript have failed or overreached.
For that reason, I am not presenting a solution, but a model that can be tested, challenged, and potentially falsified.
I would be interested in your perspective on:
- the stability of recurring glyph clusters
- whether such a reduction approach is methodologically sound
- and how you would evaluate reproducibility in this context
If there is interest, I can provide concrete examples and mappings.
Best regards
René -
RE: A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
Mauro > 6 hours ago
(6 hours ago)ReneLueth Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I would be interested in your perspective on:
- the stability of recurring glyph clusters
- whether such a reduction approach is methodologically sound
- and how you would evaluate reproducibility in this context
If there is interest, I can provide concrete examples and mappings.
Best regards
René
Well, give examples and mappings, then we'll be able to tell something... -
RE: A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
asteckley > 6 hours ago
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RE: A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
ReneLueth > 5 hours ago
Danke für die Rückmeldung.
Ich versuche es an einem konkreten Beispiel, ohne Interpretation:
Original (EVA-Transkription):
[qokedy daiin shol]
Zuordnung (aktuelles Modell):
qokedy → thermische Behandlung / Abkochung
daiin → Extrakt / Wirkstoff
shol → Körperflüssigkeit / Blut
Ergebnis (strukturell gelesen):
„Abkochung eines Extrakts zur Behandlung der Körperflüssigkeit“
Mir ist wichtig zu sagen:
Das ist kein Beweis, sondern ein reproduzierbarer Versuch, wiederkehrende Einheiten funktional zu lesen.
Ich bin sehr interessiert daran, ob diese Zuordnung für euch konsistent wirkt – oder wo sie bricht. -
RE: A structured token-based approach to recurring patterns in the Voynich manuscript
Koen G > 4 hours ago
Sonnet 1
By but a glance upon thy chosen name,
I see the mark of engines wrought by art—
A language forged in cold, mechanic flame,
Not born from unaided human heart.
Such craft is barred within this hallowed space,
Where thought must rise unprompted, pure, and free;
Thus must thy thread be stripped of pride of place,
Removed from sight for all the forum’s plea.
To “slop” consigned, where errant works reside,
A lesson rests for those who would ignore
The rules that here in quiet strength abide,
Unbent by clever tools or borrowed lore.
Let future words be thine, and thine alone—
Or else be cast again from forum’s throne.
