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• The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 04:41 PM

  Hi everybody, I have a theory that the manuscript is not a book with sentences, but with instructions that link the sections. I have seen a pattern in the Botanical section that tells you depending on the day of the year, which plant should you take, but I need someone to backup my theory. Can anyone tell me if this is the correct transcription of folios 1v and 2r? Thanks. Alejandro
  
  
  

  FOLIO 1v: MATRIZ DE 36 ANCHORS (DÍAS 1-6)

  Párrafo Superior (Días 1, 2 y 3) fachys ykalar fchol[Ari] oteey dary pchol[Tau] okal arora dchol[Gem] kydar pchoary katar tchol[Can] amon eyty kchol[Leo] kydar occhy shchol[Vir] kaimy kon dyra fshol[Ari] kalar aly pcho tey dyra pshol[Tau] kacy katar dshol[Gem] soty dary pchor amon eyty tshol[Can] kydar pchor okal aror kshol[Leo] kydar pchoary katar shshol[Vir] amon eyty fchor[Ari] kydar pcho kalar pchor[Tau] tey dyra dchor[Gem] kacy katar tchor[Can] soty dar kchor[Leo] amon eyty shchor[Vir].

  Párrafo Inferior (Días 4, 5 y 6) dairon ol kydar fshor[Ari] kalar pchor tey dyra pshor[Tau] kacy katar pcho soty dar dshor[Gem] amon eyty tshor[Can] kydar pchor okal arora kshor[Leo] kydar pcho ary katar shshor[Vir] amon eyty fpotar[Ari] kydar fcho kalar ppotar[Tau] tey dyra dpotar[Gem] kacy katar tpotar[Can] soty dar kpotar[Leo] amon eyty shpotar[Vir] kydar pcho okal arora fdotar[Ari] kydar pcho ary katar pdotar[Tau] amon eyty ddotar[Gem] kydar pcho kalar tdotar[Can] tey dyra kdotar[Leo] kacy katar shdotar[Vir].

  FOLIO 2r: MATRIZ DE 42 ANCHORS (DÍAS 7-13)

  Párrafo 1 (Días 7, 8 y 9) pchey kydar fchy[Ari] oteey dary pchy[Tau] okal arora dchy[Gem] kydar pchoary katar tchy[Can] amon eyty kchy[Leo] kydar occhy shchy[Vir] kaimy kon dyra fshyn[Ari] kalar aly pcho tey dyra pshyn[Tau] kacy katar dshyn[Gem] soty dary pchor amon eyty tshyn[Can] kydar pchor okal aror kshyn[Leo] kydar pchoary katar shshyn[Vir] amon eyty fcholy[Ari] kydar pcho kalar pcholy[Tau] tey dyra dcholy[Gem] kacy katar tcholy[Can] soty dar kcholy[Leo] amon eyty shcholy[Vir].

  Párrafo 2 (Días 10, 11 y 12) dairon ol kydar fsholy[Ari] kalar pchor tey dyra psholy[Tau] kacy katar pcho soty dar dsholy[Gem] amon eyty tsholy[Can] kydar pchor okal arora ksholy[Leo] kydar pcho ary katar shsholy[Vir] amon eyty fcthay[Ari] kydar fcho kalar pcthay[Tau] tey dyra dcthay[Gem] kacy katar tcthay[Can] soty dar kcthay[Leo] amon eyty shcthay[Vir] kydar pcho okal arora fcthyr[Ari] kydar pcho ary katar pcthyr[Tau] amon eyty dcthyr[Gem] kydar pcho kalar tcthyr[Can] tey dyra kcthyr[Leo] kacy katar shcthyr[Vir].

  Párrafo 3 (Día 13 - El "Ancla Suelta") fchor kydar fcho kalar pchor tey dyra fodal[Ari] kacy katar pcho soty dar podal[Tau] fchor amon eyty dodal[Gem] pchor okal arora todal[Can] fchor kydar pcho ary katar kodal[Leo] fchor amon eyty shodal[Vir] pchor kydar fcho kalar.

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 04:57 PM

  I will show you also the 6r, for the next six zodiac signs
  
  
  

  Párrafo 1 (Días 1, 2 y 3) pchoar kydar lchol[Lib] oteey dary schol[Esc] okal arora schtol[Sag] kydar pchoary katar mchol[Cap] amon eyty aschol[Acu] kydar occhy pchol[Pis] kaimy kon dyra lshol[Lib] kalar aly pcho tey dyra sshol[Esc] kacy katar sshtol[Sag] soty dary pchor amon eyty mshol[Cap] kydar pchor okal aror ashshol[Acu] kydar pchoary katar pshol[Pis] amon eyty lchor[Lib] kydar pcho kalar schor[Esc] tey dyra schtor[Sag] kacy katar mchor[Cap] soty dar aschor[Acu] amon eyty pchor[Pis].

  Párrafo 2 (Días 4, 5 y 6) dairon ol kydar lshor[Lib] kalar pchor tey dyra sshor[Esc] kacy katar pcho soty dar sshtor[Sag] amon eyty mshor[Cap] kydar pchor okal arora ashshor[Acu] kydar pcho ary katar pshor[Pis] amon eyty lpotar[Lib] kydar fcho kalar spotar[Esc] tey dyra schpotar[Sag] kacy katar mpotar[Cap] soty dar aspotar[Acu] amon eyty ppotar[Pis] kydar pcho okal arora ldotar[Lib] kydar pcho ary katar sdotar[Esc] amon eyty sdotor[Sag] kydar pcho kalar mdotar[Cap] tey dyra asdotar[Acu] kacy katar pdotar[Pis].

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  Koen G > 22-01-2026, 05:01 PM

  Could you explain a bit better what's happening here? Why are these words chosen?

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 05:05 PM

  The first letter identifies the sign. Aries p. The rest of the word represent the days of a zodiac sign, 30. Chol 1, Shol 2, Chor 3... So, they are grouped by the first 6 signs in the first folios. In the following ones, you will find the next zodiac signs, starting with Libra l.

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 05:14 PM

  And you know, you move to the Pharma, and find pairs, and in the Baths sections, groups of 4. But I don´t know how they are linked.
  
  
  PHARMA
  

  Folio 88r - Bloque Superior (Transcripción Completa)

  Línea 1: elar fchor[Caliente] kydar fshor[Frío] kalar pcho pchol[Caliente] ykaly pshol[Frío] katar Línea 2: dairon dchy[Caliente] soty dshy[Frío] amon eyty tcthyr[Caliente] okal tsthy[Frío] aror Línea 3: kydar kchol[Caliente] pcho kshol[Frío] kacy katar shchody[Caliente] soty shshody[Frío] dar Línea 4: amon eyty fcthy[Caliente] dary fsthy[Frío] kydar pchor pknon[Caliente] aly pshon[Frío] tey Línea 5: kacy katar dchody[Caliente] dary dshody[Frío] soty dary pchor amon eyty

  BATHS

   

  Folio 75r - Sección de los Baños (Bloque Superior)

  Línea 1: pchy fchol[1] aror fchor[2] kally fchdy[3] soty fcthy[4] kydar Línea 2: amon eyty pchol[1] dary pchor[2] okal pchdy[3] ykaly pcthy[4] katar Línea 3: dairon ol dchol[1] kalar dchor[2] pcho dchdy[3] soty dcthy[4] amon eyty Línea 4: kydar pchor tchol[1] aly tchor[2] tey tchdy[3] kacy tcthy[4] katar Línea 5: soty dary kchol[1] amon kchor[2] eyty kchdy[3] okal kcthy[4] aror

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  RobGea > 22-01-2026, 05:21 PM

  Hi almarture, for transcriptions go to >voynich.nu > Text Analysis - Transliteration of the Text 
  at the bottom of the page is a table of transliterations, most used are probably RF1b-er or ZL3b-n but there are others the choice is yours.
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  .f1r starts with <f1r.1,@P0>      fachys.ykal    NOT   .f1v   (in both RF1b_er + ZL3b-n)
  
  fchol does not appear till <f16r.10,+P0> ( in both RF1b_er + ZL3b-n )
  
  I cannot find "amon" in either file    and 'eyty'  does not exist as an individual word in either file.
  So i do not know what transliteration file you are currently using.

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 05:59 PM

  Ok, forget about it, I know this can´t be so easy. Likely I have been tricked by the computer. Aghh!!! 

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 06:17 PM

  I´m sorry for wasting your time with this, it´s incredible easy how you can believe a fake information, thinking it´s true... Well, I tried... 

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  Koen G > 22-01-2026, 06:29 PM

  Did you use an LLM? As soon as you use one with Voynich stuff, your data gets polluted.

• RE: The manuscript as a data matrix

  almarture > 22-01-2026, 06:47 PM

  I really don't know, I started to play with this some days ago. I suppose the transcription came from somewhere, but I don't want to go back to it. It's true it has nothing to do with other ones, so, no positive outcome. Lessons learned.
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