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RE: Vessel linework
Mauro > Yesterday, 01:29 PM
(Yesterday, 11:02 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(IIUC that Italian wine bottle is the origin of "fiasco" in many other languages to mean "total failure". Presumably by some story when someone wanted wine but got only the empty bottle...)
All the best, --stolfi
'Fiasco' means 'total failure' in Italian too (beyond being a bottle with a round bottom and an outside lining of straw), so this is probably the origin of its use in other languages. This use (it seems) comes from theater jargon.
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RE: Vessel linework
Aga Tentakulus > 9 hours ago
The straw wrapping is there to prevent the glass bottles in a crate from knocking together and breaking.
Then you'd have a disaster (Fiasko) on your hands. -
RE: Vessel linework
Jorge_Stolfi > 8 hours ago
(9 hours ago)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The straw wrapping is there to prevent the glass bottles in a crate from knocking together and breaking.
One of the advantages of being an Authority is that you don't need to learn the truth, you just know it. Like "women have fewer teeth and ribs than men". Obviously. No need to ask Mrs. Aristotle to open her mouth and count.
And then I am the one hallucinating...
Then why don't all wine bottles have straw wrapping?
Wouldn't it be easier to just stuff straw between the bottles in the crate, than weave those baskets around them?
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RE: Vessel linework
Mauro > 3 hours ago
(9 hours ago)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The straw wrapping is there to prevent the glass bottles in a crate from knocking together and breaking.
Then you'd have a disaster (Fiasko) on your hands.
Hehe, yeah, it's a nice idea.
The main function of the straw wrapping is to give the flask a flat base so it can stand upright. Of course it also gives a degree of protection to the glass bottle, expecially to the base.