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• First post from Japan: asking for guidance on presenting independent Voynich analysis

  Hazama Kaizuka > 9 hours ago

  Hello everyone,
  
  This is my first post on Voynich Ninja, and also my first time posting on an overseas forum.
  I apologize if my earlier attempt caused any confusion or inconvenience — I was not yet familiar with the customs here.
  
  I have been working independently on an analysis of the Voynich Manuscript for some time.
  The ideas and structure of the analysis are my own, based on direct examination of folios, layout, repetition, and functional relationships between sections.
  
  That said, I should be transparent:
  I sometimes use language tools (such as LLMs) only to help with English phrasing and formatting.
  They are not used to generate hypotheses, interpretations, or conclusions.
  
  Before presenting any concrete theory here, I would like to ask for guidance from more experienced members:
  – What is the appropriate way to introduce an independent line of analysis?
  – What level of evidence or presentation is expected to avoid misunderstandings?
  – Are there recommended formats or prior examples I should study?
  
  I respect the standards of this forum and would like to proceed carefully.
  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
  
  Thank you for your time.
  
  こんにちは。
  
  こちらは Voynich Ninja での初投稿であり、海外フォーラムへの投稿自体も初めてです。
  先ほどの投稿で、もし混乱やご迷惑をおかけしていたら申し訳ありません。
  この場での作法や慣習を十分に理解していませんでした。
  
  私は、ヴォイニッチ手稿について、しばらくの間、個人的に独立した解析を行ってきました。
  その内容は、フォリオの構成、レイアウト、反復、セクション間の機能的関係などを
  実物に基づいて検討したもので、仮説や解釈の考えそのものは自分自身によるものです。
  
  一方で、正直にお伝えすると、
  英語表現や文章整形の補助として、言語ツール（LLM など）を使うことはあります。
  ただし、それらは仮説の生成・解釈・結論には使用していません。
  
  本格的な内容を投稿する前に、
  このフォーラムに詳しい皆さんに、まず作法について助言をいただきたいと考えています。
  
  ・独自の解析を紹介する際の適切な進め方
  ・誤解を避けるために求められる提示レベル
  ・参考にすべき過去のスレッドや形式
  
  このフォーラムの基準を尊重し、慎重に進めたいと思っています。
  どのような助言でもいただければ幸いです。
  
  よろしくお願いします。

• RE: First post from Japan: asking for guidance on presenting independent Voynich analysis

  tavie > 9 hours ago

  Hi 
  
  I've responded to your PM but I'll also answer here. Your work contained hallucinations. So the LLM is clearly doing more than translating or formatting. 
  
  That is why we ban LLMs. It is not that we have strict standards. All current LLMs produce hallucinations and see things in the Voynich that are not there.  
  
  So I can't give you advice about formatting or the other matters because there is a more fundamental problem in that the LLM has poisoned your output. If you have work that you can separate from the LLM hallucinations, that would be the way to go.

• RE: First post from Japan: asking for guidance on presenting independent Voynich analysis

  Hazama Kaizuka > 9 hours ago

  Thank you for the detailed explanation.
  
  I understand your position clearly now.
  I see that, in your assessment, the LLM’s involvement went beyond translation or formatting and introduced patterns that cannot be trusted as evidence.
  
  I did not intend to bring such content into the forum, and I apologize for not fully understanding how strictly this is handled here.
  I respect your policy and will not pursue this line of posting on Voynich Ninja.
  
  Thank you for taking the time to clarify this and for moderating the forum.

• RE: First post from Japan: asking for guidance on presenting independent Voynich analysis

  Rafal > 8 hours ago

  This apology for using LLM looks like written by LLM  
  
  What is this world coming to?

• RE: First post from Japan: asking for guidance on presenting independent Voynich analysis

  ReneZ > 5 hours ago

  I think people should be given the benefit of the doubt. It is almost certainly a translation from Japanese and all advanced translation tools are based on AI principles.
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