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RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
Ruby Novacna > 08-11-2025, 10:32 PM
(08-11-2025, 06:10 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So I address a lot of these responses on my TikTok and Substack. My publication isn't on this thread.
In my opinion, a good starting point for a discussion would be the presentation of the correspondences between the glyphs (EVA, for example) and the letters you assign to them. -
RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
Doireannjane > 08-11-2025, 11:13 PM
(08-11-2025, 10:32 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-11-2025, 06:10 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So I address a lot of these responses on my TikTok and Substack. My publication isn't on this thread.
In my opinion, a good starting point for a discussion would be the presentation of the correspondences between the glyphs (EVA, for example) and the letters you assign to them.
A snippet of my publication including correspondences (not all and also not including phonetic differentiation/exceptions, these are on my upcoming youtube lessons):
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RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
Doireannjane > 08-11-2025, 11:35 PM
(08-11-2025, 11:13 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-11-2025, 10:32 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-11-2025, 06:10 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So I address a lot of these responses on my TikTok and Substack. My publication isn't on this thread.
In my opinion, a good starting point for a discussion would be the presentation of the correspondences between the glyphs (EVA, for example) and the letters you assign to them.
A snippet of my publication including correspondences (not all and also not including phonetic differentiation/exceptions, these are on my upcoming youtube lessons):
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Oops sorry, I thought that was a separate post! That's valid, I'll post some of my videos on here since it requires sound. -
RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
JoJo_Jost > 09-11-2025, 12:30 AM
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RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
JoJo_Jost > 09-11-2025, 06:49 AM
Sorry Doireannjane, but you don't have to thank me for the post. That was the opposite of approval. I haven't seen anything here that could convince me either—I see it more as an attempt to get clicks on TikTok and YouTube -
RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
Doireannjane > 09-11-2025, 07:43 AM
(08-11-2025, 05:20 PM)cabeswater Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As a native Irish speaker, I don't see how this is working. The translation process seems to be changing its interpretation of Voynich characters every time it comes across them. How are you dealing with EVA o? I don't see any reference to it at the start of vords or your interpretation of the vords. There's so many issues with this I can't even form my thoughts into meaningful seperate questions and it's all melding into one huge unknown. If you don't speak Irish, I'm clueless as to how your process is working, or if there's a process at all. You decided characters must be sounds in Irish, you don't know any Irish words, so you then look up words in Irish that include the sounds you have decided are present. This is by no means a scientific or repeatable process. Feel free to correct me if I've got anything wrong here.
I'm happy to read over what you have since I actually can speak Irish, plus I have studied medieval Irish manuscripts in my time investigating the Voynich. Your definitions and spellings for Irish words are also all Modern Irish, when the Irish spoken and written around 14th C would have been Early Modern Irish. Two very different beasts after the Caighdeán Oifigiúil hybridised the three main dialects of Irish in the mid 20th century. Time-accurate Irish would be one of those three, if not one of the many lesser spoken dialects.
I can't post videos on here, I made a quick summary of a handful of lessons that's 26 minutes long. It doesn't load on this forum. I posted it to Youtube but I don't know if that's the right platform to use, someone accused me of seeking likes. I'm seeking truth. I can take this down if my work will ruin it for people. I didn't mean to do that. So many smart people and great ideas on here. I've been laser focused on my work on it and my process. I thought others would want to see since it's so exciting. I still have doubt. -
RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
JoJo_Jost > 09-11-2025, 08:01 AM
Then I apologize—but I'm still not convinced; to me, it all sounds very weird so far - sorry. -
RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
oshfdk > 09-11-2025, 02:27 PM
(08-11-2025, 02:53 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Sure! Yes much easier. I included 84r again as well but cleaned up from my last response so you have it all in one place.
I've made a combined image, does the below look correct according to your interpretation? Is there any phonetic reading for athadh1 verb form, top right corner? As far as I understand, what you mean is that ~okoldy label is some form of the same root as ~otedal label?
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RE: Voynich through Phonetic Irish
Doireannjane > 09-11-2025, 03:19 PM
(09-11-2025, 02:27 PM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-11-2025, 02:53 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Sure! Yes much easier. I included 84r again as well but cleaned up from my last response so you have it all in one place.
I've made a combined image, does the below look correct according to your interpretation? Is there any phonetic reading for athadh1 verb form, top right corner? As far as I understand, what you mean is that ~okoldy label is some form of the same root as ~otedal label?
Hi again! So all of them have a slight "ah" shound to start hence the o shape, not entirely silent. Used for inflection, we see this in more modern Irish too. That's how I've found it to be in some of the constellation section instructionals as well, this happens from time to time throughout as well. I posted a video response to Youtube since I can't more than 2mb on here. The distinguishing of elopement is there (still not entirely sure about tenses). I also have a video of a quick overview of the phonetics as well on there.