JoJo_Jost > 25-08-2026, 09:58 PM
Bernd > 26-08-2026, 11:42 AM
Koen G > 26-08-2026, 01:25 PM
bi3mw > 26-08-2026, 02:07 PM
JoeyB > 26-08-2026, 02:21 PM
(26-08-2026, 01:25 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Note also how often separate entries are crammed together on one page. My impression of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is that it took fragments that may well have been on the same page, and copied them there, without the three of them necessarily all belonging together.
Some thoughts:
- The more crosses in between individual words, the more likely you are dealing with pseudo-Latin formulae. Complete phrases without in-between crosses are more likely to be meaningful, often instructional.
- It is almost certain that the scribe had access to a medicinal compendium that contained German.
- Either the scribe was not fluent in German, or he was writing without care.
- Whatever process gave rise to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. involved two Voynichese words.
The latter point is probably the most interesting. Did the scribe see things in his source manuscript (for f116v) that looked like Voynichese? Was he actively converting parts of the source MS to Voynichese? Or is the Voynichese an idle insertion?
JoJo_Jost > 26-08-2026, 03:46 PM
(26-08-2026, 11:42 AM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.p.473 contains another charm instruction than combines a charm to be spoken into the patient's right ear, so nim and gaissin milch
Bernd > 26-08-2026, 04:16 PM
(26-08-2026, 01:25 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Note also how often separate entries are crammed together on one page. My impression of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is that it took fragments that may well have been on the same page, and copied them there, without the three of them necessarily all belonging together.Yes, that may very well be the case, and it does sound familiar (see below).
(26-08-2026, 01:25 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is almost certain that the scribe had access to a medicinal compendium that contained German.I agree. The author must have used or known of such books containing German charm instructions. I'd list that as another source of the VM.
JoJo_Jost > 26-08-2026, 04:22 PM
... Too bad.
JoJo_Jost > 26-08-2026, 04:30 PM
Bernd > 26-08-2026, 04:50 PM
(26-08-2026, 04:30 PM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.but gais milch = two letter missing... That's not plausible.Indeed.