Koen G > 02-09-2016, 07:40 PM
Searcher > 02-09-2016, 10:21 PM
Quote:Marco:
Following the National Geographic article linked by David, I interpret the diagram as the Antichrist ruling the world. I am not sure of what Izhim or Azhim means here, nor of the meaning of the cross above that word.
As the article says, the Antchrist has four horns, represented by the large cross in the diagram: Mentita dictas (mendacitas? / mendacity); Calliditas (cunning); Dolositas (deceit) ; Crudelitas (cruelty).
Quote:Anton:
That is not "z", but "r". Hence "ihrim" or somethimg like that.
-JKP- > 02-09-2016, 11:43 PM
(02-09-2016, 04:54 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Another fragment from ms You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. It mixes Latin and German in a very interesting way.
Both "venom" and "pulmon" have been mentioned for the third word in line 1.
I think the title reads "Cont[ra] venen[um]" (against venom), but I am far from sure
The underlined line at the bottom reads "Sanguine[m] de pulmo[n]e agni" (lamb lung blood).
ReneZ > 03-09-2016, 08:11 AM
(02-09-2016, 11:43 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco, I was reading some of the charms and recipes in Clm 726 and noticed the following on folio 44r:
"Dem das hirn schwindat odar gar verschwunden der ist dar ass dik gersten mel mit gaismilch gemischt er gerist."
Putting this into slightly more readable German (not modern or proper German, but expansion of some of the truncated words so they are more recognizable in German), I get the following:
Dem das [ge]hirn schwindlig oder gar* verschwunden der ist dar essen dicke gersten mehl mit geissmilch gemischt er gereist.
Note that "gar" is Norse for to go or to become and gereist is both Norse and German for to travel/to get up (in the morning or from bed)/to get around.
Koen G > 03-09-2016, 08:23 AM
-JKP- > 03-09-2016, 08:29 AM
MarcoP > 03-09-2016, 11:31 AM
(02-09-2016, 10:21 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi!
Thanks for the responses and reference. I looked on the "r"s in the other words as "Crudelitas" and "Israhel" etc., therefore decided that it is rather "z", but I see that, probably, it is the "r" in abbreviations, so, maybe, "+" is a part of an abbreviation?!
The same word is in the "channel" to Israel: Vener[i]t i Ihr+m ab gog". Maybe, this is a name or mean the same as below?!
P. S. "Mentita deitas" = False divinity.
(03-09-2016, 08:11 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.After the Mondragone presentation of Johannes Albus I had been looking for recipes involving goat liver, which exist since antiquity and have to do with bad eyesight. Never looked too much for goat milk. It would seem to be of interest.
ReneZ > 03-09-2016, 02:31 PM
(01-09-2016, 08:49 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you for adding the transcriptions, David!
I also noticed that famous 1954 Panofsky's letter mentioned. Rene, do you know if it was ever integrally published? It would be great to have an online scan
-JKP- > 03-09-2016, 04:04 PM
(03-09-2016, 11:31 AM)Marco Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Can anybody shade some light on the "+" signs at the top of Clm 671 f44r?
Anton > 03-09-2016, 05:07 PM
Quote:Note that this also confirms the meaning of 'so' in "so nim geissmilch", namely 'then' in the context:
"in case (condition A) then (do B)".
I have seen plenty of examples where the part "in case" is equally written 'so'.