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Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
Aga Tentakulus > 06-01-2025, 02:04 PM
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
bi3mw > 06-01-2025, 03:14 PM
(06-01-2025, 02:04 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A new calendar every year. It all depends on when the new year begins. Sometimes it was Easter.
But also March 1. The University of Tübigen (some will know the digitized manuscripts on OpenDigi) writes the following:
Quote:Difficulties in dating can also arise due to the different beginnings of the year. December 25 (Christmas) was often counted as the beginning of the year, sometimes also January 1, March 1 (according to the ancient Roman model) or - particularly widespread in France - Easter (the latter also results in different year lengths!).
I have written to the university and asked them to explain when and where the beginning of the year was set to March 1 according to the ancient Roman model (!). To me, this looks like a statement and not speculation - let's see if I get an answer.
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
Aga Tentakulus > 06-01-2025, 03:19 PM
The link opens on the main page, hence the translation of the page.
The beginning of the year in the medieval calendar does not always coincide with January 1. In total, there are six different beginnings of the year (Dec. 25, Jan. 1, March 1, March 25, Easter, Sept. 1).
In German-speaking Switzerland and southern Germany, the so-called Nativity style prevailed until the 15th century, with the turn of the year falling on December 25 (in line with the counting by incarnation years). In the period between Christmas and New Year (octave), the year given in the original dating must therefore be reduced by one. Thus the coronation of Charlemagne (Christmas 800) is often consistently entered in contemporary annals at the beginning of the year 801.
Since the 16th century, the so-called circumcision or calendar style has prevailed, which corresponds to the modern beginning of the year on January 1st.
Due to the variety of year beginnings, these should always be checked carefully.
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
BessAgritianin > 06-01-2025, 03:35 PM
(06-01-2025, 06:23 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So those are moon mansions? And all this time I thought that they were just poorly drawn versions of a rectangular quatrefoil.
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Yes they are.
How may I publish the rest of my investigations on f67r1?
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
nablator > 06-01-2025, 04:04 PM
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
BessAgritianin > 06-01-2025, 04:17 PM
(06-01-2025, 11:25 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(cíbǎr) (adverb [font=Helvetica, Geneva, 'Arial Unicode MS', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', Code2000, sans-serif][b]You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[/b]) (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)[/font](06-01-2025, 04:54 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Take a look at the starting point of the moon masons - the same word - "VADOL" or Aquarius as a staring point.
If you translate dairal as aquarius, how would you translate okeodaly ?
- clear, translucent (of water) Voynychese "8" may be read as "B" or "V" according my investigations.How do you read it?
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
ReneZ > 07-01-2025, 12:10 AM
(06-01-2025, 04:17 PM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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(06-01-2025, 04:54 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Take a look at the starting point of the moon masons - the same word - "VADOL" or Aquarius as a staring point.
If you translate dairal as aquarius, how would you translate okeodaly ?
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- clear, translucent (of water) Voynychese "8" may be read as "B" or "V" according my investigations.How do you read it?
I do not know what okeodaly means, and in fact nobody knows.
The same is true with dairal. Nobody knows.
All proposed readings of words in the Voynich MS are based completely on speculation, and are not supported by any argument that can withstand any scrutiny.
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
oshfdk > 07-01-2025, 04:01 AM
(07-01-2025, 01:13 AM)Linda Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(07-01-2025, 12:10 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.An interesting argument can be set up for okeodaly but I will save it for later.
Does this occur on the rosettes page?
As far as the transliteration goes, it seems to only appear twice in the MS, once per each Taurus folio, outer ring at approx 13:30 (dark Taurus) and 19:15 (light Taurus). Maybe there is more to it, I don't know.
I didn't know about this one.
Edit: re-reading I realized I used past noon 24h times to indicate angles. It's 1:30 and 7:15 in 12h
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RE: Missing Constellations in VM Zodiac
BessAgritianin > 07-01-2025, 04:56 AM
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I do not know what okeodaly means, and in fact nobody knows.
The same is true with dairal. Nobody knows.
All proposed readings of words in the Voynich MS are based completely on speculation, and are not supported by any argument that can withstand any scrutiny.
An interesting argument can be set up for okeodaly but I will save it for later.
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Rene, conclusions by induction include probability. And they may not be true.
I do not know what okeodaly means - this is true conclusion, but I could investigate and provide the right answer.
But I know with 100% surety that dairal is Aquarius, or VODOL in Czech. And the proofs are You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and f67r1 of Voynich Manuscript.