Binomial distribution in VMS

[RobGea]

Hmm, there are 2 issues , all percentages are different, and count for dy is different {6952} , all the other counts are the same, currently investigating { best guess atm is newlines and EVA( ' )   }

[bi3mw]

In case you can use it for comparison, here is my cleaned up file:

  ZLall2.zip (Size: 75.56 KB / Downloads: 17)

[RobGea]

Thanks for the file bi3mw, that helped find the issue.

<-> A drawing intrusion in the text.

<%>kchsy.chydaiin.ol<->o,l,tchey.char.cfhar,am    {ZL3a-n.txt} [line 71]    <f1v.1,@P0> 

kchsy chydaiin olo l tchey char cfhar am                {ZLall2.txt} [line 32]

kchsy chydaiin ol o l tchey char cfhar am               {ZL3_W.txt) [line 32]

There are 8 of these strings "d<->y" in ZL3a-n.txt and when the drawing intrusion is removed it results in a new 'dy' string.

It is possible that you may not be using the latest version of ivtt or my codeblocks ming compiler has not updated to the C17 revision .

[bi3mw]

It is possible that you may not be using the latest version of ivtt ....

I use version 1.1, is that the latest ?

[RobGea]

The latest current version is  v2.0 
Link to source code is on this page : ivtt: (Intermediate) Voynich Transliteration Tool :: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

[bi3mw]

Updated, now dy fits

No.  Bigram Frequency (in %) Frequency
  1      CH        7.1390      11081
  2      HE        5.3267      8268
  3      DY        4.4789      6952
  4      AI        4.3745      6790
  5      OK        3.9809      6179
  6      IN        3.8939      6044
  7      OL        3.6298      5634
  8      EE        3.4204      5309
  9      QO        3.4126      5297
  10      ED        3.2960      5116
  11      II        3.0699      4765
  12      SH        2.9204      4533

edit: but now the other bigrams no longer all fit 

[RobGea]

Nice, exact match with Cryptool.
Digram Analysis of <ZL3_W.txt>. File size 239128 bytes.
Descending sorted on frequency.

  No.   Substring Frequency (in %) Frequency
    1         ch         7.1390       11081
    2         he         5.3267       8268
    3         dy         4.4789       6952
    4         ai         4.3745       6790
    5         ok         3.9809       6179
    6         in         3.8939       6044
    7         ol         3.6298       5634
    8         ee         3.4204       5309
    9         qo         3.4126       5297
  10         ed         3.2960       5116
  11         ii         3.0699       4765
  12         sh         2.9204       4533

[bi3mw]

Very nice, "onlinetoolz" also fits. The only thing that doesn't fit anymore is the output in my text editor (rather mysterious). For example, it shows 4581 for II.

[RobGea]

Oh yeah, same here, aha i think its the triples like 'daiiirihy'. in notepad++ it highlights them and it only only highlights 2 of the 3 i's
but ngrams would  be ['da', 'ai', 'ii', 'ii', 'ir', 'ri', 'ih', 'hy'].

EDIT:
Oh noes , i think i see another issue, grrr. i dont think EVA(-') is being processed properly, Oh well , it'll have to wait till tomorrow now.

[bi3mw]

You are right, if you subtract the 184 "iii(i)" from the 4765 "ii" then you get exactly 4581. So everything is fine ( hooray )

So we have fulfilled Rene's requirements (same results from cryptool and python script, see post #45).

No.  Bigram Frequency (in %) Frequency
  1      CH        7.1390      11081
  2      HE        5.3267      8268
  3      DY        4.4789      6952
  4      AI        4.3745      6790
  5      OK        3.9809      6179
  6      IN        3.8939      6044
  7      OL        3.6298      5634
  8      EE        3.4204      5309, 4889 + ( 413 x EEE + 7 x EEEE ) 420
  9      QO        3.4126      5297
  10      ED        3.2960      5116
  11      II        3.0699      4765, 4581 + ( 183 x III + 1 x IIII ) 184
  12      SH        2.9204      4533