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Binomial distribution in VMS - bi3mw - 17-08-2024 Question: What if the words in the VMS have been shortened or expanded with fill characters (here X) so that they end up corresponding to a binomial distribution (with whatever system)? Here is a line from a comparative text ( regimen sanitatis ): Input example: Capitulum primum De regulis sumptis ex parte elementorum nostro corpori occurrentium ab extra Output example: Ca primum DeXXXXX regul sump exXXXX parteX elemento nost corpo occu abXXXX extra Distribution in the entire, modified text ( regimen sanitatis ): Code: import sys Quote:ChatGPT RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - Ruby Novacna - 17-08-2024 And, by replacing the endings, what will that give? Capitul9 prim9 De regul9 sumpt9 ex parte elemeng nostro corpori occurrenti9 ab extra RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - bi3mw - 17-08-2024 (17-08-2024, 12:14 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And, by replacing the endings, what will that give? Well, this would possibly lead to a shortening of the words, but there would be no binomial distribution. BTW: I would assume that the lengthened words might not have been filled with the same letters (e.g. XXXX), but with phrases (e.g. daiin ? ). RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - Ruby Novacna - 17-08-2024 (17-08-2024, 12:28 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, this would possibly lead to a shortening of the words, but there would be no binomial distribution. Are you assuming or have you calculated? What does the distribution look like? RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - bi3mw - 17-08-2024 (17-08-2024, 12:42 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are you assuming or have you calculated? What does the distribution look like? I strongly assume so, but if you have a longer text with the abbreviations I can plot that too. RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - RobGea - 17-08-2024 I could not recall the details of the Stolfis' binomial stuff, so i found it and thought to add it here. Stolfi, "On the VMS Word Length Distribution", Feb 2002 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Julian Bunn.Computational attacks on the Voynich Manuscript, "Word Length Distributions", Aug 2021 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. -- Just a thought, does the binomial distribution hold per folio or even per section ? RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - RobGea - 17-08-2024 (17-08-2024, 12:33 AM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Question: What if the words in the VMS have been shortened or expanded with fill characters (here X) so that they end up corresponding to a binomial distribution (with whatever system)? Could it work like this, First you need a system to encode a language into partial-voynichese, then you apply this secondary system to achieve binomial distribution that results in full voynichese. This secondary system must have rules for the shortening - lengthening process, for shortening, lets just say you chop off what you do not need. but for additional glyphs you may need to add up to like 7 additional glyphs in rare cases, so you would need rules to generate the glyphs for the glyph-bins 1-7. RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - bi3mw - 17-08-2024 Explanation of the code above: calculate_binomial_distribution: This function calculates the binomial distribution for the word lengths based on the formula choose(9,k-1)/2⁹. The distribution is normalized to a sum of 1. adjust_word_lengths: This function adjusts the word lengths of the words from the text to the target distribution. If the target word length is shorter, the word is shortened accordingly. If the target word length is longer, the word is lengthened by appending "X". process_text: This function reads the text from a file, adjusts the word lengths using adjust_word_lengths and returns the new text. main: This function expects the path to a text file as a parameter and outputs the modified text with adjusted word lengths. ![]() ![]() RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - bi3mw - 18-08-2024 (17-08-2024, 03:35 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.-- Just a thought, does the binomial distribution hold per folio or even per section ? I have picked out the balneological section ( Quire 13 , from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ) as a test. The binomial distribution is clearly recognizable here. Here for comparison folio 75r: And here the complete VMS: RE: Binomial distribution in VMS - RobGea - 18-08-2024 Thanks for the graphs bi3mw, interesting that a section shows a binomial distribution and a folio subset does not. Honestly, i dont know what to make of this binomial distribution business. 1. Statistical corollary of the method used to generate voynichese. 2. As postulated in post#1, it was done deliberately. 3. Coincidence. 4. Other ? . |