Hmm, there are 2 issues , all percentages are different, and count for dy is different {6952} , all the other counts are the same, currently investigating { best guess atm is newlines and EVA( ' ) }
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
bi3mw > 28-08-2024, 08:19 PM
In case you can use it for comparison, here is my cleaned up file:
kchsy chydaiin olo l tchey char cfhar am {ZLall2.txt} [line 32]
kchsy chydaiin ol o l tchey char cfhar am {ZL3_W.txt) [line 32]
There are 8 of these strings "d<->y" in ZL3a-n.txt and when the drawing intrusion is removed it results in a new 'dy' string.
It is possible that you may not be using the latest version of ivtt or my codeblocks ming compiler has not updated to the C17 revision .
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
bi3mw > 28-08-2024, 10:44 PM
(28-08-2024, 10:02 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is possible that you may not be using the latest version of ivtt ....
I use version 1.1, is that the latest ?
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
RobGea > 28-08-2024, 10:53 PM
The latest current version is v2.0
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RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
bi3mw > 28-08-2024, 11:02 PM
Updated, now dy fits
No. Bigram Frequency (in %) Frequency
1 CH 7.1390 11081
2 HE 5.3267 8268
3 DY 4.4789 6952
4 AI 4.3745 6790
5 OK 3.9809 6179
6 IN 3.8939 6044
7 OL 3.6298 5634
8 EE 3.4204 5309
9 QO 3.4126 5297
10 ED 3.2960 5116
11 II 3.0699 4765
12 SH 2.9204 4533
edit: but now the other bigrams no longer all fit
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
RobGea > 28-08-2024, 11:12 PM
Nice, exact match with Cryptool.
Digram Analysis of <ZL3_W.txt>. File size 239128 bytes.
Descending sorted on frequency.
No. Substring Frequency (in %) Frequency
1 ch 7.1390 11081
2 he 5.3267 8268
3 dy 4.4789 6952
4 ai 4.3745 6790
5 ok 3.9809 6179
6 in 3.8939 6044
7 ol 3.6298 5634
8 ee 3.4204 5309
9 qo 3.4126 5297
10 ed 3.2960 5116
11 ii 3.0699 4765
12 sh 2.9204 4533
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
bi3mw > 28-08-2024, 11:52 PM
Very nice, "onlinetoolz" also fits. The only thing that doesn't fit anymore is the output in my text editor (rather mysterious). For example, it shows 4581 for II.
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
RobGea > 29-08-2024, 12:03 AM
Oh yeah, same here, aha i think its the triples like 'daiiirihy'. in notepad++ it highlights them and it only only highlights 2 of the 3 i's
but ngrams would be ['da', 'ai', 'ii', 'ii', 'ir', 'ri', 'ih', 'hy'].
EDIT:
Oh noes , i think i see another issue, grrr. i dont think EVA(-') is being processed properly, Oh well , it'll have to wait till tomorrow now.
RE: Binomial distribution in VMS
bi3mw > 29-08-2024, 12:18 AM
You are right, if you subtract the 184 "iii(i)" from the 4765 "ii" then you get exactly 4581. So everything is fine ( hooray )
So we have fulfilled Rene's requirements (same results from cryptool and python script, see post #45).
No. Bigram Frequency (in %) Frequency
1 CH 7.1390 11081
2 HE 5.3267 8268
3 DY 4.4789 6952
4 AI 4.3745 6790
5 OK 3.9809 6179
6 IN 3.8939 6044
7 OL 3.6298 5634
8 EE 3.4204 5309, 4889 + ( 413 x EEE + 7 x EEEE ) 420
9 QO 3.4126 5297
10 ED 3.2960 5116
11 II 3.0699 4765, 4581 + ( 183 x III + 1 x IIII ) 184
12 SH 2.9204 4533