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Another ancient "map"?
- Another ancient "map"?
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Another ancient "map"?
Mark Knowles > 12-11-2023, 09:43 AM
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RE: Another ancient "map"?
merrimacga > 12-11-2023, 09:30 PM
Hardly the oldest one in Europe either. It can be argued that the oldest "map" in the world (so far) is the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. dating back to 25,000 BC/BCE. A set of two carvings in a woolly mammoth tusk depicting a mountain, river, valleys and routes, it was discovered in 1962 in the Pavlov I archaeological site in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the Moravian region of what is now the Czech Republic.
![[Image: Engraving_on_a_mammoth_tusk%2C_map%2C_Gr...76872x.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Engraving_on_a_mammoth_tusk%2C_map%2C_Gravettian%2C_076872x.jpg)
![[Image: tumblr_phw76nhN4l1qz6ibho2_1280.jpg]](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b93820d99fbdd7ba267de1bcb6a28215/tumblr_phw76nhN4l1qz6ibho2_1280.jpg)
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Also in Europe, also carved on a woolly mammoth tusk, and also considered a "map", is the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the area depicting huts along the river. It was found in 1965 and dates very roughly to 15,000 BC/BCE.
![[Image: pic%5CM%5CE%5CMezhyrich%20archeological%...efacts.jpg]](https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pic%5CM%5CE%5CMezhyrich%20archeological%20site%20artefacts.jpg)
And then there is also the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. found in Navarre, Spain in 1994, which have been dated to roughly 13,660 BC/BCE.
![[Image: 1-s2.0-S0047248409000839-gr6.jpg]](https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0047248409000839-gr6.jpg)
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This You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. discuss other "oldest maps", including the Çatalhöyük map, a wall mural found in the proto-city settlement of the same name in Anatolia (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., PDF pg 91 in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. paper by Duygu Seçil Çamurcuoğlu). The settlement dates to circa 7,500-5,200 BC/BCE and the "map" dates to 6,600 BC/BCE. The first episode of the third season of Cosmos did a fascinating recreation of the settlement.
Truly, if we want to consider the Rosettes folio in the VM as a map, it would be fairer to compare it to other contemporaneous drawings rather than going all the way back to ancient archaeological examples. Everything is a matter of perspective and we might today consider a map something that was created in ancient times but something similar created in the Middle Ages we might judge by a different standard due to more advanced methods and standards at the time of creation. But if such ancient depictions as these can be considered maps, which is still debated, there is no reason the Rosettes in the VM can't also be considered maps as well.