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  Aga Tentakulus > 28-05-2024, 07:23 AM

  I think it was about the crossbow in the zodiac sign Sagittarius.

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  R. Sale > 06-06-2024, 11:06 PM

  Here is a cosmic diagram with alternate names for three of the planets. Venus is Lucifer; Mars is Vesper; and Jupiter is Feton.
  
  See Diagram 6
  
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  GreyCat > 09-06-2024, 11:17 AM

  hmmm, that's interesting because Vesper is the Roman for Evening Star (Venus in the evening) as opposed to Lucifer which was Morning star (Venus in the morning).

• RE: Matching planet labels

  BessAgritianin > 09-01-2025, 08:05 AM

  Matching Planet Labels is absolutely correct. 
  I have some translations on f67r1, which proof the table of Planet Labels on f67r2. 
  In the moment I try to open a web space on the same host. When it is ready will let you know.
  br: Vessy

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  oshfdk > 09-01-2025, 08:30 AM

  Thank you! I think (naively, I know), that I'm veeeery close to solving the whole cipher thing.

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  BessAgritianin > 09-01-2025, 09:12 AM

  (09-01-2025, 08:30 AM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you! I think (naively, I know), that I'm veeeery close to solving the whole cipher thing.

  I have sent you a personal post from this blog. Did you get it, or not?
  The contents was some technical questions as how to add a folder to the project in GitHub and how to save the project?
  BR: Vessy

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  oshfdk > 09-01-2025, 09:24 AM

  (09-01-2025, 09:12 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have sent you a personal post from this blog. Did you get it, or not?
  The contents was some technical questions as how to add a folder to the project in GitHub and how to save the project?

  
  I think I sent you an answer about an hour ago, could you double check? At least I have it in my "Sent items".

• RE: Matching planet labels

  RadioFM > 09-01-2025, 04:14 PM

  (09-01-2025, 08:30 AM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you! I think (naively, I know), that I'm veeeery close to solving the whole cipher thing.

  
  May I suggest you go over this brief checklist of phenomena your solution should be able to explain, before posting it?
  

  • Currier's Line As A Functional Unit phenomena, namely certain words having a tendency to appear at the beginning/end of lines
    
  • One-legged gallows appearing predominantly in the first lines of paragraphs
    
  • Similar words standing together or in close proximity in a line
    
  • Reduplication chol chol chol, qokeedy qokeedy qokeedy, daldal and the like
    
  • The apparent drift and evolution of Voynichese across Quires
    
  • f27v not having iin endings
    
  • q being preceded by y most of the time
    

  
  Also, if somewhat complete, your solution should be able to translate a whole paragraph and hopefully the next few words:

  • opcholdy
    
  • asal
    
  • doary
    
  • qokeedy
    
  • daiin
    
  • dydyd
    
  • chol
    
  • chedy
    
  • c'heey
    
  • okal
    
  • okeor
    
  • ior an on
    

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  oshfdk > 09-01-2025, 05:55 PM

  (09-01-2025, 04:14 PM)RadioFM Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.May I suggest you go over this brief checklist of phenomena your solution should be able to explain, before posting it?
  

  • Currier's Line As A Functional Unit phenomena, namely certain words having a tendency to appear at the beginning/end of lines
    
  • One-legged gallows appearing predominantly in the first lines of paragraphs
    
  • Similar words standing together or in close proximity in a line
    
  • Reduplication chol chol chol, qokeedy qokeedy qokeedy, daldal and the like
    
  • The apparent drift and evolution of Voynichese across Quires
    
  • f27v not having iin endings
    
  • q being preceded by y most of the time
    

  
  Also, if somewhat complete, your solution should be able to translate a whole paragraph and hopefully the next few words:

  • opcholdy
    
  • asal
    
  • doary
    
  • qokeedy
    
  • daiin
    
  • dydyd
    
  • chol
    
  • chedy
    
  • c'heey
    
  • okal
    
  • okeor
    
  • ior an on
    

  
  Thank you, this is an excellent list of features, very compact and covers a lot of peculiarities!
  
  As a side note, I think it's more like "rod an on" and not "ior an on" based on my attempt of de-painting it, but I'm not certain about this.
  
  In any case, I'm not yet in the position to decipher anything, I'm currently still at the stage of understanding how exactly the script works. And I have to admit it's not the first time I've thought the solution was just around the corner, so not holding my breath. But I'm optimistic.

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  voynichrose > 04-04-2025, 07:30 AM

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  I really enjoyed your essay about the rulership of planets on f67r2.  Yet what troubled me was two things.  A total complete rulership is very rare and the colored waning moons.  So I came away from f67r2 as a night and day property of astrology.  I changed the position of the sun to be setting so that all the planets could have their positive strengths from a halfway above and below the horizon so that red fit all the planets but not the sun.  Just a focus on the planets.  So its not a complete rulership.
  
  I like your use of the f67r2 better than my idea on Henry the 5th!
  
  We must look at every sunset between 1404–1438 to see if the planet line up like this.
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