Hermes777 > 16-07-2022, 01:17 AM
Juan_Sali > 16-07-2022, 11:56 AM
(16-07-2022, 01:17 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The script could be an attempt to craft a writing system for a previously oral-only languageI find it highly improbable. When an oral language starts to be written they use to take the written system of a near written language (by proximity, commerce, the language of their conquerons ...). There is no need to craft a whole system, it is easier to addapt a known system of reproducing sounds to the sounds of the oral language, it is a question of economy.
tavie > 16-07-2022, 12:15 PM
(16-07-2022, 01:17 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I entirely appeciate the virtues of tackling Voynichese context-free - such studies are of course necessary and valuable - but I don’t understand why people can be allergic to bringing context to the conundrum.
Hermes777 > 16-07-2022, 12:30 PM
(16-07-2022, 11:56 AM)Juan_Sali Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-07-2022, 01:17 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The script could be an attempt to craft a writing system for a previously oral-only languageI find it highly improbable. When an oral language starts to be written they use to take the written system of a near written language (by proximity, commerce, the language of their conquerons ...). There is no need to craft a whole system, it is easier to addapt a known system of reproducing sounds to the sounds of the oral language, it is a question of economy.
Hermes777 > 16-07-2022, 01:01 PM
Juan_Sali > 16-07-2022, 01:40 PM
(16-07-2022, 12:30 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But I can't find any probable reason to create a new script in any scenario, so whatever the truth it is likely to be improbable.Some reaons:
cvetkakocj@rogers.com > 16-07-2022, 01:41 PM
(16-07-2022, 01:01 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The wrong way to explore that possibility is to start picking out Voynich words that might look like Ladin words. I don't use that method. I'm allergic to translating random Voynich words.
ReneZ > 16-07-2022, 02:14 PM
(16-07-2022, 12:30 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But I can't find any probable reason to create a new script in any scenario, so whatever the truth it is likely to be improbable.
MarcoP > 16-07-2022, 02:26 PM
(16-07-2022, 01:17 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don’t understand why people can be allergic to bringing context to the conundrum.
(16-07-2022, 01:17 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The specific context I point to is the 1450s
(16-07-2022, 01:01 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The historical context, illustrations and other factors lead me to identify Ladin as the most likely language for such a work.
(16-07-2022, 12:30 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But I can't find any probable reason to create a new script in any scenario, so whatever the truth it is likely to be improbable.Some additions to what Rene wrote:
Aga Tentakulus > 16-07-2022, 04:45 PM