Koen G > 26-04-2022, 08:32 PM
(26-04-2022, 05:40 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I would suggest, that in your tea example, the Voynich is drinking coffee
Torsten > 26-04-2022, 08:52 PM
kckluge > 26-04-2022, 10:09 PM
(26-04-2022, 02:48 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As Rene also noticed, however, the "rewriting n-grams" method has a significant drawback: it makes words really short. As you can see in the "Voynich- Vvovyvnvivcvhv" example above, verbose encoding has the effect of lengthening words, and Voynichese words aren't excessively long to begin with.
ReneZ > 27-04-2022, 12:44 AM
(26-04-2022, 10:09 PM)kckluge Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.have you ever driven through farm country during a heat wave on a muggy, sunny day..."?
kckluge > 27-04-2022, 12:44 AM
(26-04-2022, 03:59 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I was naive enough to believe that statistics in general and entropy in particular were means, among others, to achieve a purpose, which would be common to all Voynich fans: understanding the text.
kckluge > 27-04-2022, 02:26 AM
(27-04-2022, 12:44 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Please post more, Karl!
Ruby Novacna > 27-04-2022, 11:30 AM
(27-04-2022, 12:44 AM)kckluge Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.if you take some set of 12th cent. Persian texts and map them to Voynich glyphs using his theoryWhy you should map Persian texts in Voynich glyphs? Can't you calculate their entropy directly?
(27-04-2022, 12:44 AM)kckluge Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.it's an issue of methodologySpeaking of methodology, the translation you mention, which I have just looked at, has not matured to be subject to testing: I have not even found matches between the transcription, in EVA, for example, and the proposed translation, unless the page exists and I have not seen it.
ReneZ > 27-04-2022, 12:06 PM
kckluge > 27-04-2022, 08:07 PM
(26-04-2022, 03:29 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have also noticed that there are errors in the standard EVA transcription that we all depend on, likely because that was originally based on lower-resolution images. I am beginning a very long-term project of proof-reading the transcription to make corrections and to resolve many of the uncertain readings. Might take as long as a year, but I think it will be well worth the effort. I have made ten corrections on f. 1r alone, so I suspect there will be well over a thousand changes to be made, which may very well impact computational and linguistic analyses.
Koen G > 27-04-2022, 08:23 PM
(26-04-2022, 04:59 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A verbose cipher can also be created with a procedure that does not necessarily create longer words