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• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin > 19-03-2025, 03:42 PM

  Hello everyone! My name is Kocherhin Dmitro Alexandrovich, I am from Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. I managed to obtain the original text of the manuscript.
  In short, it is a philosophical treatise (on average, 16 words per page), but digging deeper, I realized that the manuscript's structure is multilayered. Using my method, I was also able to extract a ritual (I won’t specify which one for now). The more you pull the threads, the more new things come to light.
  Since I am just a regular working man living paycheck to paycheck, a reward would not hurt. I started from scratch, without studying other authors. I relied on intuition and the tools available to me (AI). I am neither a cryptologist nor a linguist.
  I will publish the results of my breakthrough on YouTube. Most likely, it will be in Russian, as I do not speak English, though I may use AI for translation. There is no exact release date yet, but it is tentatively planned for next month—I still have to work and pay bills.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  RobGea > 19-03-2025, 04:18 PM

  (19-03-2025, 03:42 PM)Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. a reward would not hurt.

  
  Neither does it hinder.
  In your case, you have initiated, researched, worked on and supposedly solved the Voynich without any reward offered or given.
  Looking forward to your presentation.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  BessAgritianin > 20-03-2025, 05:11 AM

  (19-03-2025, 03:42 PM)Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hello everyone! My name is Kocherhin Dmitro Alexandrovich, I am from Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. I managed to obtain the original text of the manuscript.

  
  Hello and Welcome!
  There is no prize set for the solution of the manuscript, since there are many many people who think to have cracked the text (me included). At least this id the official announcement.
  What do you mind by saying that you have found the original text? Is there another book, similar to the well known manuscript? * Есть другая книга Вам знакома?
  
  I am Bulgarian and I speak Russian ( learnt from school). I can help you if you need it.
  BR: Vessy

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  Rafal > 20-03-2025, 04:49 PM

  Hi Dmitro, welcome to the forums.
  
  At this moment you shouldn't really think of earning money from your Voynich solution. You would have to be better
  than all these people who also presented their solutions but they were not accepted. So prepare your presentation and
  share it with us when you're ready.
  
  And take care of yourself! It looks like you live close to the war zone.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin > 20-03-2025, 06:14 PM

  Understand me correctly. Let's say there's a war in your country (God forbid), you lose everything, your family is scattered around the world, and you see them once a year or every two years. You work hard, 270 hours a month, and to distract yourself, you decide to "play" with AI just for fun using the Voynich manuscript. You give it a direction, and within an hour, you find a way to decipher it — and it reveals the entire text that has been hidden for centuries, a mystery the greatest minds have worked on and continue to work on. What would you do? Share the key to the solution with the crowd and gain respect, or try to find a way to help your family, buy a house, and bring everyone to a safe place, for example?

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  tavie > 20-03-2025, 07:37 PM

  Hi Dmitro
  
  We're not judging you for thinking of earning money from your solution to help your family. But please don't count on this or make any decisions based on this expectation.  I think that's what Rafal meant. 
  
  More than a hundred people have convinced themselves they have solved the Voynich, and they haven't.   
  
  This is not an exaggeration.  In the last 9 years since this forum started, over You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. have been posted here.  There were many solutions before the forum started that this list doesn't not capture.  And there have been even more posted on other sites after this forum started that this list doesn't capture.  There may be as many as 200 overall.  Maybe that is an understatement.  I've never tried to count the ones elsewhere.  But there are a lot of them.
  
  These solvers were (and mostly still are) passionately convinced that they had deciphered the manuscript.  Each of them was wrong.  The odds are extremely high that the same thing has happened to you.  It's very unlikely that you are different, especially since you're sounding like many of them when you express certainty about your solution, and talk about how you didn't read previous work and your intuition helped you.  AI is also not a reliable tool, especially when Voynich decipherments are concerned:  we had an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.in the last few weeks and it turned out the AI made it all up. 
  
  I hope you and your family stay safe.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  Ruby Novacna > 20-03-2025, 11:06 PM

  (20-03-2025, 06:14 PM)Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....What would you do? 
  Share the key to the solution with the crowd and gain respect, or try to find a way to help your family, for example?

  
  Dmytro, try your luck as a writer or/and author of a YouTube channel, for example. Several solvers have done this, although I don't know if it brought them any income. Apparently, AI helps write books?

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  zachary.kaelan > 20-03-2025, 11:35 PM

  If we were to crowdfund a bunch of money for something, I would much rather it go towards more carbon dating samples or multispectral scans.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  ReneZ > 21-03-2025, 12:06 AM

  (20-03-2025, 06:14 PM)Dmytro_Oleksandr_Kocherhin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Understand me correctly. Let's say there's a war in your country (God forbid), you lose everything, your family is scattered around the world, and you see them once a year or every two years. You work hard, 270 hours a month, and to distract yourself, you decide to "play" with AI just for fun using the Voynich manuscript. You give it a direction, and within an hour, you find a way to decipher it — and it reveals the entire text that has been hidden for centuries, a mystery the greatest minds have worked on and continue to work on. What would you do? Share the key to the solution with the crowd and gain respect, or try to find a way to help your family, buy a house, and bring everyone to a safe place, for example?

  
  I don't want to talk lightly about this situation, but a prize might not help you much, and in any case, there isn't any.
  
  If you *really* solved it, there would be ways to turn that into money. But it would have to be generally accepted as the correct solution first.

• RE: Revisiting A Voynich Prize

  oshfdk > 21-03-2025, 01:00 AM

  (20-03-2025, 11:35 PM)zachary.kaelan Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If we were to crowdfund a bunch of money for something, I would much rather it go towards more carbon dating samples or multispectral scans.

  
  This is interesting, what would you expect to find using new scans or carbon dating?
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