CaryR > 20-06-2021, 05:17 PM
(20-06-2021, 02:01 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(20-06-2021, 01:14 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The one rosette which really annoys me is the top left rosette as unlike so much of the page it lacks much specific detail, at least within the circle. Really the only specific detail is the ring of crescent moons, as I describe them, in the centre. That lack of detail leaves it wide open to a lot of different interpretations, which I find frustrating. I think also, to me, it poses the question as to why the author chose to include so little detail; was there little detail to include or was it a conscious decision not to include much detail.
Mark Knowles > 20-06-2021, 05:57 PM
(20-06-2021, 05:17 PM)CaryR Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(20-06-2021, 01:14 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The one rosette which really annoys me is the top left rosette as unlike so much of the page it lacks much specific detail, at least within the circle.In response to this comment about the top left rosette, I would not describe it as lacking in specific detail just because it has more "empty space" than some of the others.
Though we did not set out to explain all details (and certainly don't suggest that any details we have not mentioned are meaningless), this is one that we found important.
Mark Knowles > 20-06-2021, 06:10 PM
(20-06-2021, 05:07 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The specific / generic dichotomy is problematic because there are examples of both. Generic buildings, cities, etc. are fairly common. Few European artists of the Middle Ages would have had an accurate picture of Constantinople or Jerusalem, let alone Troy. Specifics need to be proven and that is a great difficulty. The devil is in the details and not all examples are equally devious. Places are difficult, either known or nearly impossible to identify.Constantinople and Jerusalem are real places. However the suggestion in some theories such as the one described in this article is that the buildings do not correspond to any real places. Do you know of any examples of documents of the period which contain many different distinct buildings with specific details such as we see on the rosettes page that have no real meaning or connection to real places?
RenegadeHealer > 20-06-2021, 06:57 PM
Koen G > 20-06-2021, 07:23 PM
bi3mw > 20-06-2021, 08:19 PM
Koen G > 20-06-2021, 08:34 PM
bi3mw > 20-06-2021, 09:21 PM
(20-06-2021, 08:34 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ecclesia, just like Church, is a wonderfully polysemous word. It can be the building (sp. iglesia, fr. église) but also all the faithful as a group.This reminds me of a passage from Hildegard von Bingen's Scivias:
Mark Knowles > 20-06-2021, 10:12 PM
(20-06-2021, 07:23 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark, to be perfectly clear, I think it is possible that the buildings represent something real, but I also think they may be generic.I will try to see if I can present a thread on the Voynich buildings.
But if you want to discuss the nature of these buildings further, it would probably be better in a dedicated thread.
R. Sale > 20-06-2021, 11:16 PM