ReneZ > 23-02-2021, 08:22 AM
bi3mw > 23-02-2021, 11:18 AM
(22-02-2021, 09:24 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Even a potentially valid plant identification reveals nothing beyond itself.I think it is possible that correct plant identifications could provide a crucial clue to deciphering the text. Very likely, the plant name is always at the beginning of the descriptive text and may occur only once. This opens different possibilities for investigation.
RenegadeHealer > 23-02-2021, 07:37 PM
(23-02-2021, 07:30 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Many plants are very similar, so the drawings may be similar even if they are not the same plants ... Medieval herbals sometimes include two or three plants of the same family that are very similar.
R. Sale > 23-02-2021, 08:30 PM
(23-02-2021, 11:18 AM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(22-02-2021, 09:24 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Even a potentially valid plant identification reveals nothing beyond itself.I think it is possible that correct plant identifications could provide a crucial clue to deciphering the text. Very likely, the plant name is always at the beginning of the descriptive text and may occur only once. This opens different possibilities for investigation.
In the case of compound plants, identification would be practically impossible. Any effort in this direction would be doomed to failure from the start.
-JKP- > 24-02-2021, 04:30 AM
(23-02-2021, 07:37 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(23-02-2021, 07:30 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Many plants are very similar, so the drawings may be similar even if they are not the same plants ... Medieval herbals sometimes include two or three plants of the same family that are very similar.
In your experience JKP, when this occurs, are these illustrations typically all found on the same page or nearby?
Also, on a related note, how commonly have you seen a medieval herbal include multiple hard-to-distinguish plant drawings in close proximity, which actually have nothing taxonomic or practical in common? (I’ve been thinking a lot about Herbal B with this second question; more on that later.)
-JKP- > 24-02-2021, 04:39 AM
(23-02-2021, 08:30 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.How about this? What VMs plant has the best identification? What names across a reasonable range of languages can be applied to that plant? What vord in the VMs text might represent that plant name? If that does not work, what are the prospects for progress in this method of investigation???
Aga Tentakulus > 24-02-2021, 05:36 AM
-JKP- > 24-02-2021, 10:46 AM
RenegadeHealer > 25-02-2021, 12:11 AM
Koen G > 25-02-2021, 12:26 AM