[Interview] Voynich documentary on the Travel Channel

[R. Sale]

Rich,

Re Anne Nill - assume you've tried Ancestry & familysearch.
If you have good dates, DOB & DOD, and location information, try a search without a surname. Mistranscriptions might be Mill, Will, etc.  "Find A Grave" is pretty thorough. but names can be problematic.

[proto57]

Rich,

Re Anne Nill - assume you've tried Ancestry & familysearch.
If you have good dates, DOB & DOD, and location information, try a search without a surname. Mistranscriptions might be Mill, Will, etc.  "Find A Grave" is pretty thorough. but names can be problematic.

Thanks, Richard... I believe I had used Family Search back then... they are excellent, and free. That is the Mormon site, and I use it for much research of all types. I'll look again tomorrow and see what I had found at the time.

Find-a-Grave is good, too. I did some pics for Wilfrid's grave, in fact, on that site. I was just down there with Cathy two weeks ago... his site happens to be a couple of hundred feet from my own family's site, where my father is buried.

Anyway, I couldn't find Anne Nill on Find-a-Grave when I last looked. Not every name is in there though.

I'm really interested to see if René has any names of those relatives. Or maybe someone else here knows the answer to this?

Rich.

[ReneZ]

About the relatives of Anne Nill, I had to dig a bit. The information dates from 2000 and some points were recently (2018) clarified by Gerry Kennedy.

The indirect source was J.M. Rollett, son of A.P. Rollet, co-author of a book on mathematical models. The father wanted to write a biography of Boole, and the son wanted to take over, but later gave up. They got in contact with someone called Carol Spero who wanted to write a biography of ELV, but also gave up. It was the latter (if I understand correctly) who wrote that she tried to get the distant relatives of Anne Nill together to fight an ownership battle over the Voynich MS after Anne's death, but there was no interest to pursue this.

So effectively they were only distant relatives, and the person interested to pursue this was (according to Rollett jr.) a friend of Anne Nill rather than a relative.

The papers of J.M.Rollett are in what Gerry called the 'Lincoln Library'.
There's also this link:
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[ReneZ]

By the way, I am not aware of the details of Anne's funeral / cremation (?).
However, there is more info at Colin MacKinnon's site:

This document:
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names a sister of Anne called Emma Seilheimer, with her address in Buffalo.

[LisaFaginDavis]

Based on notes at the Grolier, it seems pretty clear that Nill's relatives wouldn't have had a legitimate claim to the manuscript anyway. In one of her notebooks, she writes "July 12/61 MS sold to H.P.K. for cash $24,500".

[ReneZ]

Legally, I would agree.

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However, she should also get half the profit in case Kraus sold it for much more, and his price was $ 160,000
(Kraus writes this in his autobiography).

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[radapox]

I believe that you can find the video at:

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This is episode 12 of season 1.

Yay! Thanks for this.

[R. Sale]

Rich,

If it adds anything, Ancestry has this listing:
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Name: Anne Nill
Age: 87
Birth Date: abt 1874
Death Date: 24 Sep 1961
Death Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 20689"

From the various Atlantic crossings giving her year of birth as 1894, it appears her age has been erroneously transcribed.

[LisaFaginDavis]

Legally, I would agree.

(next part edited).
However, she should also get half the profit in case Kraus sold it for much more, and his price was $ 160,000
(Kraus writes this in his autobiography).

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Sure, but he didn't sell it, as you know!

[-JKP-]

Legally, I would agree.

(next part edited).
However, she should also get half the profit in case Kraus sold it for much more, and his price was $ 160,000
(Kraus writes this in his autobiography).

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Rene, if you add another message within a short time frame, it will add a rule and put the new message underneath it. You can edit the ruler out if you want (just highlight and delete). If you want a message to be separate, you can wait for the auto Append function to time out and then post the next message.