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  R. Sale > 29-07-2020, 08:21 PM

  Investigations of certain VMs illustrations have produced connections with particular historical sources such as artistic images and records of actual events, along with other documents. In several individual lines of investigation, the connections are grounded to sources with good historical provenance. Taken in summation, the details of historical provenance, from Melusine to the Golden Fleece, either imply or strongly suggest a connection to the historical Duchy of Burgundy in a period after 1430.
  
  Investigation of the VMs rainbows in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is discussion of long standing. Rainbows can be connected to anything from T. Rex to a '57 Cadillac, not to overlook Noah's arc, though the best suggestion was the medieval artistic use of a double rainbow as a divine throne. However, the VMs throne is empty. Is the missing occupant Christian of Classical? The evidence is insufficient.
  
  Now, limit the investigation to Burgundy in the time after 1430 and what can be found? Nothing - should be the expected result, but history provides information about La sainte Hostie de Dijon. Quite a significant historical event at the time, The throne is a rainbow.
  
  Every VMs investigator has wondered about the 'nymphs'. Are they personifications of this or that? Are historical or mythical characters hidden among them? Is that Lady Bertilak? What if the prior conditions [Burgundy post 1430) are taken into account?
  
  Well, you read the title, here they are.
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  And here is Colette of Corbie.
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  They clearly were in the Duchy of Burgundy at the time selected. Colette died in 1447. They were supported by Philip the Good and his wife, Isabella. In the KBR library of Philip the Good, there are two books titled, Vie de soeur Colette, authored by Pierre De Vaux, produced about 1460 in Flanders. [ms. 6048 and ms. 10988; the second has a couple illustrations.]
  
  This is not to say that there was a connection, real or imaginary, between these religious women and the VMs nymphs. However, this is intended to open a window to historical facts and events which were occurring at that time.

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  R. Sale > 05-08-2021, 11:32 PM

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  In which it says: 
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]St Colette reformed the Order of Poor Clare's and founded a branch of the Order that is still known as the Colettines.[/font]
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]St Colette had a special devotion to St John the Apostle, who appeared to her on one occasion to place a miraculous ring on her finger. As he did so, he said: "by my own right and on behalf of the sovereign King and Prince of virginity and chastity." This ring was visible to all, and was a beautiful and very precious ring of gold.[/font]
  
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]St Colette had a great desire for a relic of the True Cross. One day when she was contemplating Our Lord's suffering in the midst of her community, she was drawn into an ecstasy. When her contemplation was over, she realized she was holding a small gold crucifix that had not been there before. It contained a small relic of the True Cross. Years later, upon preparing for her death, she gave away her few possessions. The abbess of Besancon received this cross as St Colette told her: "Keep it and treasure it, for it is from Heaven.[/font]
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]***[/font]
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]And so - the point here is that <according to the story>, she gets a ring and a cross. Things that have been considered in VMs investigations.[/font]
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]And secondly, her devotion is to St John, and it is the illustration in the Apocalypse of S Jean, (1313) [BNF Fr. 13096], in the library of Philip the Good, Duke of [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Burgundy, that serves as a structural model in the discussion of the Golden Fleece and VMs f80v.[/font][/font]
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Who is the VMs nymph who holds the ring? Ehh! - could be anybody. Or it could be another subtle reference to events of the earlier decades of the 1400s with certain connections to the history of the Duchy of Burgundy. Colette of Corbie would add another connection.[/font][/font]
  
  [font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]It's interesting that her reforms caught on in some areas (Burgundy, Savoy), not in others (France). Somewhat similarly, the Premonstratensians (Norbertines) <[font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]White Canons with the white galeros> held on in the Burgundian state after they had otherwise moved on to parts of eastern Europe. Obviously the Colettines were female, though they apparently associated with the Coletans. The Premonstratensians also had a fair proportion of women during this era.[/font][/font][/font]

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  R. Sale > 18-08-2021, 06:49 AM

  Anna Campbell's biography of Colette of Corbie:
  
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  R. Sale > 13-02-2022, 08:41 PM

  With recent interest the religious aspects of the VMs, Colette was a part and a significant indicator of the current religious situation during the C-14 chronology.
  
  Hadewijch is an earlier example of religious influences.
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