nablator > 01-09-2019, 01:51 PM
(01-09-2019, 11:11 AM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is exactly the point. EVA is a stroke-based transcription alphabet and therefore it is necessary to parse the strokes into tokens. Remains the question how to parse EVA into tokens.
-JKP- > 01-09-2019, 04:28 PM
ReneZ > 01-09-2019, 04:31 PM
-JKP- > 01-09-2019, 04:43 PM
(01-09-2019, 04:31 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(01-09-2019, 04:28 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Has anyone even done a stroke-based transcript?
Philip Neal was working on this but I don't know how far he got.
nickpelling > 01-09-2019, 08:57 PM
-JKP- > 02-09-2019, 12:03 AM
Torsten > 02-09-2019, 04:35 PM
(01-09-2019, 08:57 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What, then, of Torsten's ligatures? Some, like EVA qo, won't raise many objections. EVA ch and sh were designed in, along with c-gallows-h, so no problem there either. But ar / al / or / ol / am aren't so straightforward: because if you follow these through to their logical conclusion (as I tried to do in Curse), you have to also read o- +g as similar pairs: and from there to y- + gallows. At which point pretty much everything becomes strongly paired.
(01-09-2019, 08:57 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[/font]More generally, the or / ar / ol / al ligature group seems visually inconsistent with the an / ain / aiin / aiiin group. In particular, given that r starts with exactly the same linear downstroke as i, there really should be no stroke harmony adjacency behaviour difference between their usage. But the statistics shout otherwise very loudly.
(01-09-2019, 08:57 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.How is it that the hypothetical autocopyist was able to maintain that statistical consistency over so many pages of text, and yet evolve the patterns of usage (from Currier A to B) so subtly?
(01-09-2019, 08:57 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But even though I can see why it is visually appealing to imagine that EVA -dy can be freely substituted for EVA -dy, it is oddly asymmetric that EVA -dy is almost never substituted for EVA -d.
(01-09-2019, 08:57 PM)nickpelling Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Similarly, if EVA d- starts words with a curve, why do we see EVA dy- so rarely? Even something as apparently obvious as -dy hides a wealth of behaviors that are all linked together.
Davidsch > 04-09-2019, 04:31 PM
Koen G > 19-09-2019, 11:30 AM
bi3mw > 19-09-2019, 03:44 PM
(19-09-2019, 11:30 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Torsten, would it be possible for you to generate a 35,000 word text with your method and attach it here? I would like it for statistical analysis.I have a file here with 34980 words (3879 lines in the conf.properties of Timm's Generator.)