Monica Yokubinas > 14-07-2019, 12:51 AM
(13-07-2019, 06:05 PM)Linda Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Linda, we all have different things we see in the Voynich, and in many cases, most are correct. Jabir said a truly magical book would be interpreted differently by different people, which is probably why he is know as the father of "gibberish". These were the Persian magicians whose craft was being suppressed during the 200 years of darkness, when the Arabs took control and erased their history and writing system... all to stop the magic they feared.(13-07-2019, 04:49 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Page 75r:
Upper 10 words translation:
Mire to be rooted up, to moisten in the body, loot to remove please. To burst forth blatant, to gather of desire.
Paragraph translation: (first 10 lines)
Live to breach a promise this hated one of form seduced. Beauty of husk pressure powerful thorn bush. Sweep away this to breach a promise of strength of the hated one, to sweep away fruitful up to this point gently, become beautiful. Oh please beauty at that time, like this beauty rest. Beauty assembled as a group, breathe out rest primordial waters, dew of the Lord, bright as colorful flowers. Heron/Position of honor, handful of peace, raise the price of privilege, to be heated hated one, how long? Sweep premature baby, a weapon of beauty bubbling spring, trembler of beauty dream, rest, sweep premature baby, God to sweep premature baby. Something hallowed to split into pieces, house early fruit relief, remove Lord hated one in heat/fire at that time. Sweep fair poppy hollowed unripe fruit, hollowed of house poppy up to this point, sweep rest. Bridle to fly up to this point to become green. My own long life of hallowed poppy, hallowed of young/seeds fair up to this point hated one rest. This to become green, my own poppy, to be vexed an hour. Vex lactating breast, my own poppy up to this point. Hallowed poppy, my own Lord of bright colorful flowers to be healed. Lord of pillows* , my own Lord of trembler poppy, branch poppy companion vexed up to this point, fool be afraid. Up to this point poppy hallowed cometh out to sweep Lord of vexed hated one, then my own poppy contempt, hallowed poppy pillows*, then exhaust oneself of pillows*. My own Lord of rest, firepot premature baby innocent rest, blossom poppy. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
*pillows Strongs # 3704, was used in the King James Bible in Ezekiel 13: 18-20. Breaking down the word would be “full moon + cometh out” = menstruation. After reading the verses, they coincide with the 9 rosette folio causing abortions, and using the fetus/branch for nefarious means.
Poppy was used to help relieve pain and bring menstruation and is mentioned by Nicholas Culpeper in 1649, in Culpeper’s The Complete Herbal.
Lastly a picture in Alchemical symbolism. The tree is the Source of Origin (placenta) the basket pictured is the womb, and the branch is the child. Notice the ladies bathing at the bottom.
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Monica, i have my own interpretation of this page based on the imagery and unfortunately i don't see much in the way of commonality with your take and mine. I can't comment on your methods as i dont have knowledge in that area, but i do find it interesting, it might well be a parallel theme to the one i see, i was thinking about You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and that the top image there seems like a womb to many and i can see that too, and there i can correlate my other ideas with the idea of cradle of modern civilization, perhaps this one is of a similar vein, but one which did not see fruition, or saw destruction. In my interpretation it is one of the last areas known to the western world besides those not shown. Also the business of opium trade is largest in the area of the world i relate to this page.
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(02-01-2020, 11:21 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
This stems from my last post on Reddit when someone compared me to Cheshire. I do not use multiple languages. I utilize Biblical Hebrew and now have over 100 pages complete.
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Monica Yokubinas > 02-01-2020, 11:41 PM
(02-01-2020, 11:34 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-01-2020, 11:21 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
This stems from my last post on Reddit when someone compared me to Cheshire. I do not use multiple languages. I utilize Biblical Hebrew and now have over 100 pages complete.
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I don't think the comparison to Cheshire is fair. His "method" is mostly subjective, and there's no such thing as "proto-Romance" in the 15th century.
Your method is consistent and can be replicated. My main concern about it (as I've mentioned in one of the early posts) is that there is still the problem of explaining the unorthodox letter frequency and position. These two aspects of the VMS text are not consistent with natural language texts in any language (including Semitic languages).
MarcoP > 03-01-2020, 11:26 AM
(02-01-2020, 11:34 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-01-2020, 11:21 PM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
This stems from my last post on Reddit when someone compared me to Cheshire. I do not use multiple languages. I utilize Biblical Hebrew and now have over 100 pages complete.
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I don't think the comparison to Cheshire is fair. His "method" is mostly subjective, and there's no such thing as "proto-Romance" in the 15th century.
Your method is consistent and can be replicated. My main concern about it (as I've mentioned in one of the early posts) is that there is still the problem of explaining the unorthodox letter frequency and position. These two aspects of the VMS text are not consistent with natural language texts in any language (including Semitic languages).
Quote:it is written in a partial mirrored Hebrew script of ancient origins in an unknown Semitic language, similar to Aramaic
The vowels are already in the VM, I have to take most out when utilizing for Hebrew root words. Please remember, this is not the Hebrew language. I use Hebrew root words to get a small understanding of an unknown Semitic language.
This is also not the Hebrew language, but an agglutinative unknown one utilizing the Hebrew letters for magical purposes. My Theory is that is the lost language of the Khazars.
There are Turkic words in there as well as the Ardic family has shown.
My theory is it is the lost written language of the Khazars who were Turkic Jews, and they used an agglutinative language, so you have to take and phonetically find corresponding root words in Hebrew or Turkish to get an understanding of what was trying to be conveyed.
I believe it is a form of Turkic Hebrew, utilized by the Khazars. whose written language disappeared around the 14th century. You can utilize Hebrew phonetic root words to give meaning to an agglutinative language.
It is my theory that this is the 'Only" known writing of the Khazars or Turkic Jews. Their written language has been lost for centuries.
I do not know the language or structure, I can only pull out Hebrew root words. I can easily make up flowery speech
The process works for pulling out ROOT words, and their meaning, Not sentence structure of a language we have no idea what it is.