bi3mw > 08-04-2019, 06:25 PM
-JKP- > 08-04-2019, 06:29 PM
(08-04-2019, 06:17 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:why the second column "b" doesn't match to firs column "b". or this is not "b"? maby its a number"3", and opposite first "d" is a number "2"
The second column contains Voynichese symbols, the writer tried to guess correspondence between those and Latin letters, in an attempt of deciphering the text as a plain substitution cipher.
Quote:The "h" in the first row looks very characteristically, I wonder whether the first row can be approximately dated according to the shapes of letters. I also wonder if this handwriting matches that of any known VMS owners. Is not this Sinapius' or Baresch's writing?
rasiratros > 08-04-2019, 06:33 PM
(08-04-2019, 06:25 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.To return to your opening post, we are still faced with the problem of finding an original handwriting (autograph) by Agrippa von Nettesheim. Despite his numerous letters, this seems to be a real problem in research. The only most probable, handwritten work by him is the first edition of the "De occulta philosophia" of 1510. (Signature M. ch.q.50 in the University Library of Würzburg.) The later printed editions are, of course, unsuitable for a comparison of the handwriting.
I have emailed the University Library and asked if there is a digitized edition of M. ch. q.50. One will have to wait for the answer.
Anton > 08-04-2019, 08:01 PM
Quote:You're right. It's a characteristic "h" from a certain time period. Blog here:
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Anton > 08-04-2019, 08:06 PM
ReneZ > 08-04-2019, 08:12 PM
bi3mw > 08-04-2019, 08:25 PM
(08-04-2019, 08:12 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Simple question: has anyone found by now any confirmed writing from the hand of Agrippa?
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rasiratros > 08-04-2019, 08:32 PM
(08-04-2019, 08:12 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Simple question: has anyone found by now any confirmed writing from the hand of Agrippa?
I would not expect it to look much like the gothic hand in the Voynich MS marginalia.
Agrippa is of course a fascinating personality, and he has some characteristics that could be relevant. The author of the MS could easily be someone similar to him, yet living at least 80 years earlier.
When I first learned about the Voynich MS, I was also considering him, but even before the C-14 dating, his dates were really not matching.
Helmut Winkler > 09-04-2019, 05:59 PM
(08-04-2019, 06:25 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.To return to your opening post, we are still faced with the problem of finding an original handwriting (autograph) by Agrippa von Nettesheim. Despite his numerous letters, this seems to be a real problem in research. The only most probable, handwritten work by him is the first edition of the "De occulta philosophia" of 1510. (Signature M. ch.q.50 in the University Library of Würzburg.) The later printed editions are, of course, unsuitable for a comparison of the handwriting.
I have emailed the University Library and asked if there is a digitized edition of M. ch. q.50. One will have to wait for the answer.