Anton > 04-04-2019, 06:23 PM
rasiratros > 04-04-2019, 06:53 PM
(04-04-2019, 06:23 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well I did not say exactly it's not true, what I mean is that I think truth is less likely to be lying in that direction and that there should be some underlying methodology in approaching the VMS provenance. Different researchers pursue different threads, and that's perfectly OK, the more people are involved and the more lines of investigation they work through, the sooner the VMS puzzle will be solved.
But with gradually reading more through the forum you will find out that many things were discussed in the past with good arguments, and referring to that really saves a lot of effort. Many things have been already done. Many things have not.
Koen G > 04-04-2019, 07:14 PM
(04-04-2019, 05:19 PM)rasiratros Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Agrippa lived and worked in Cologne. From the current border with the Netherlands it is 50 km. At that time it was one country.
Anton > 04-04-2019, 07:47 PM
Quote:Are there significant facts to believe that the author lived in the 15th century and did not use drawings from books in 16th (clothing)?
-JKP- > 04-04-2019, 07:50 PM
(04-04-2019, 06:53 PM)rasiratros Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Are there significant facts to believe that the author lived in the 15th century and did not use drawings from books in 16th (clothing)?
bi3mw > 04-04-2019, 08:04 PM
ReneZ > 04-04-2019, 09:06 PM
bi3mw > 05-04-2019, 10:29 AM
Quote:28.ff. 202v-251v Miscellaneous alchemical, chemical, magical and technical receipts and notes, in Dutch and Latin
nablator > 05-04-2019, 11:52 AM
(04-04-2019, 07:47 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is considerable quantitative evidence (shifts and jumps in glyph n-gram statistics, autocopy, LAAFU, PAAFU, entropy, ...) that the text is not what it appears (superficially) to be: written in an unknown but not-too-weird natural language. If the VMS is inherently deceptive about the nature of the text, either because it is strongly coded or encrypted (an anachronism in the 15th century), or because it represents something else than language, then everything else prima facie about the VMS (an otherwise unremarkable herbal/astrological/medicinal manuscript) including its apparent age is probably nothing but deception and misdirection too. It would be inconsistent to go through the effort of creating a unbreakable system for the text and then label objects and give precious hints about the subject in illustrations, giving researchers a "low hanging fruit" to attack.Quote:Are there significant facts to believe that the author lived in the 15th century and did not use drawings from books in 16th (clothing)?
I'd say there are no significant grounds to believe the contrary. That's what the Ockham's razor is about: "frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora".
If one presents such grounds by unveiling some new facts in confirmation or, perhaps, by revealing that the "15th c theory" has some inherent contradictions, then, of course, that would be quite a different thing.