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  davidjackson > 04-03-2019, 09:55 PM

  F83v2. A fascinating folio, if only because of a) the chicken scratches and b) the fact that it is, IIRC, the only place that I know of where a proper bird is drawn.
  A few years ago I drew up a blogpost on this page where I compared it to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and I haven't much changed my opinion.
  If the VM author drew not one but two identical birds in the same schemata then a very specific reason compelled him to and several years of research haven't turned up much that isn't a) esoteric and b) non-contemporary.
  Now, the thing that interests me is that we can then draw a further comparison to f57v, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. represent the four secondary winds of Greek mythology. Albeit this was written in the first flush of youth, with some rather over-enthusiasm, which was later, very commendably, tampered by the experience and wisdom of Diane in the comments section of that blog post, and I must remember to thank her for this.
  So let us carry on with this Greek idea. What other folios can we link to classic Greek explanations of physical phenomenons?

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  Linda > 05-03-2019, 12:01 AM

  Interesting, i hadnt seen either as winds. But that and the relation to Ptolemy and the precursor to the almanac is triply correlative for me, although i havent got the parallels straight in my head yet.
  
  I had thought of f83v2 to indicate mountains and different kinds of rock and minerals, and how sediment and sand and soil derive from the breakdown of larger units of rock. I thought perhaps the birds and people were there because without soil, you do not have plants, and without plants you do not have animals or people...perhaps that interpretation can stand in parallel with a wind based one?
  
  It seems Koen has this as the four winds of Ovid, are they analogous to yours? 
  
  Homeric winds, the first four were basic Greek winds, then they noticed the sun was in a different place in summer than winter so added the winter winds...it is possible this was not actually Homer's doing though.
  
  
  Aristotlean winds
  
  
  Timosthenes, with Conversion to Latin names
  
  
  Mariners Compass Rose
  
  
  Funny, another mention of Matthew Paris, he tried to correlate the classical winds with the marine winds.
  
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