Linda > 21-04-2026, 02:57 AM
(18-04-2026, 08:56 AM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Linda, it's amazing how you manage to bring the figures to life. The result is fascinating. I suppose you included the images to show that not all the female figures are marching in the same direction. But there's really no contradiction because the figures coming out of the tubes aren't marching. What reveals an intention is the fact that in all the signs where the figures are standing and marching they always do so in the same direction, mimicking the movement of the celestial sphere.Thank you, Antonio, but the praise goes to Patrick Feaster, I saw the images in Google just before I read your mention of marching, but hadn't yet seen where they came from. They are indeed fascinating to look at.
Quote: Only in Pisces do we see the female figures emerging from the tubes, and not all of them, but only those in the inner circle, because those in the outer circle are inside the tubes. I don't think this is accidental, but rather intentional, just as the zodiac begins with Pisces in March, when nature begins to be reborn.I am not sure all are female. I agree emerging seems the right word. But I thought it portrays more as coming out after withstanding a storm, ... or a winter, i suppose, I guess I can see how these ideas could mesh with spring.
Quote: Since the female figures are a representation of the stars, of astral influence, in the minds of the authors there is a temporal sequence in the way that influence develops, that is, in the way the figures emerge from the tubes. In quire 13, as a continuation of the zodiac, we see the figures completely outside the tubes, traveling through the conduits of the universe and heading towards Earth. What the authors want to show with this iconography is the journey of the stars to fertilize the Earth and make plants grow.I had to reread that but I think I understand. You mean the authors drew the nymphs coming out of the tubes in such a way as to denote their influence being generated? I guess the questions that come to mind are, do they always influence or only when they get here, or when their influence gets here? I kind of get the idea that the Starshine that would come from a star would be it's influence, would it?
Antonio García Jiménez > 21-04-2026, 07:43 AM
Stefan Wirtz_2 > 21-04-2026, 12:43 PM
(21-04-2026, 07:43 AM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..] the men's and women's toilets with a Sun and Moon painted on the door. A speaker of a Latin language would have no problem,[..]
Antonio García Jiménez > 21-04-2026, 07:30 PM
Stefan Wirtz_2 > 21-04-2026, 10:22 PM
(21-04-2026, 07:30 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..] as you will have seen in the Voynich, the moon is depicted with feminine features. [..]
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Linda > 22-04-2026, 02:51 AM
(21-04-2026, 07:43 AM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What we see are hundreds of female figures. There are no male figures, even though it may seem like there are some.
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Quote:For me it has a clear explanation: they represent the fixed stars. And for any speaker of a language derived from Latin it is easier to see this than for a speaker whose mother tongue is English because this language lacks grammatical gender.I know the phrase 'le soleil et la lune', and 'une' vs 'un', so I understand what you are saying, but why, if substituting figures for stars, would they need to match the gender for the word of the object they are to represent? It doesn't distinguish them from representing any other female gendered object, like forks, or tables. It is not helping to identify them in that regard, so why would it be a factor at all? Does this mean you think the language of the makers is derived from Latin? (I know you don't think the writing itself has meaning as a language).
Here in Spain I once entered a restaurant that distinguished the men's and women's toilets with a Sun and Moon painted on the door. A speaker of a Latin language would have no problem, but an English speaker would be puzzled not knowing what his/her toilet is.
Although it seems like a minor problem, it is not considering that this forum is developed in English and almost all of the VM's research has been done in this language.
Antonio García Jiménez > 22-04-2026, 08:59 AM
Stefan Wirtz_2 > Yesterday, 11:13 AM
(22-04-2026, 08:59 AM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Since antiquity the sun has been represented with masculine characteristics and the moon with feminine ones,[..]
Antonio García Jiménez > Yesterday, 03:57 PM
Stefan Wirtz_2 > Yesterday, 10:33 PM
(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
What's astonishing is how little support some of his ideas have received.
(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
What I can say without exaggeration is that, as far as the Voynich imagery is concerned, he is the most qualified person who has consulted it in the entire history of research on the codex.
(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
who held the codex in his hands and saw nothing biological or related to bathing. Neither female organs nor women bathing.
Was he blind, or did he know how to interpret what he saw?
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