-JKP- > 17-08-2019, 04:54 AM
-JKP- > 17-08-2019, 04:58 AM
(17-08-2019, 04:11 AM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
As you can see, the first line accurately describes the poet's flower, and observe that there's a macron in the last line. Another macron cannot be found elsewhere in that lengthy poem and, as a general rule, macrons are not normally employed in the English language.
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Morten St. George > 17-08-2019, 10:55 AM
(17-08-2019, 04:54 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.On the top-right of folio 17, I see the number 17 and I see a mostly erased flower head.
I don't see a macron.
Quote:In the VMS, on the top of f17r, we find a mysterious macron and over to the right of it there is an image in the shape of a fleur de lys . . .
Morten St. George > 17-08-2019, 11:22 AM
(17-08-2019, 04:58 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(17-08-2019, 04:11 AM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As you can see, the first line accurately describes the poet's flower, and observe that there's a macron in the last line. Another macron cannot be found elsewhere in that lengthy poem and, as a general rule, macrons are not normally employed in the English language.
Sure they were. Not quite as often as Latin, but they certainly used them.
That's a printed book. Macrons were gradually dropped in printed books, which were for a wider audience. But they existed in manuscripts.
-JKP- > 17-08-2019, 11:46 AM
Paris > 17-08-2019, 02:48 PM
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Morten St. George > 17-08-2019, 07:17 PM
(17-08-2019, 02:48 PM)Paris Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think also that this letter is similar to a latin-g
In the following image, you can read a latin-y at the first letter of the first sentence
On the second sentence, you can read "noz subgez" ( = nos sujets in modern french. = our subjects in modern english).
The letter at the bottom of folio 57v is quite similar to the "g" of the word "subgez".
This excerpt is from Philip the Good, duke of Burgundy, written in august 1441, Brussels.
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-JKP- > 17-08-2019, 07:31 PM
Morten St. George > 17-08-2019, 08:10 PM
(17-08-2019, 03:12 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here are the examples I posted on the other thread. Look at the letters "g" in the second row. The first one in the second row is from the VMS, the others are from a variety of manuscripts.
The ones in the first row are more common, but the ones in the second row are not uncommon. They are sometimes written with a different stroke order, but usually the "y" shape is written first and then the crossbar is added on the top. If the crossbar is not attached perfectly, it looks like a y with a macron, but it's not. We know from the context that they are the letter "g":