Morten St. George > 17-08-2019, 08:42 PM
(17-08-2019, 07:31 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The g is a bit regional. Sometimes it has a long upper stem, sometimes a long tail, sometimes a looped tail. It varies more than a lot of letters.
-JKP- > 18-08-2019, 01:26 AM
(17-08-2019, 08:10 PM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the VMS, folio 42 is marked by the singular overwrite of an image and folio 72 (flip side) is marked by a double bar (from the alphabet line) pretending to be the number 11 and this is followed by the initials of michel nostradamus. That page also has a macron, octēbre, where October happens to be the only month directly named in the VMS prophecies.
Note the 30 splits into two 15's, and that folio 42 plus 15 equals 57 (our macron folio) plus another 15 takes us to folio 72.
In conclusion, I think the figure on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is deliberately ambiguous, intending to simultaneously represent the letter "g" and a ל with macron.
Morten St. George > 18-08-2019, 03:19 AM
(18-08-2019, 01:26 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(17-08-2019, 08:10 PM)Morten St. George Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the VMS, folio 42 is marked by the singular overwrite of an image and folio 72 (flip side) is marked by a double bar (from the alphabet line) pretending to be the number 11 and this is followed by the initials of michel nostradamus. That page also has a macron, octēbre, where October happens to be the only month directly named in the VMS prophecies.
Note the 30 splits into two 15's, and that folio 42 plus 15 equals 57 (our macron folio) plus another 15 takes us to folio 72.
In conclusion, I think the figure on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is deliberately ambiguous, intending to simultaneously represent the letter "g" and a ל with macron.
It's not pretending to be the number 11. It is the number 11. It is a quire number. It's in the right position and order and folio to be a quire number, an instruction to the binder. The other quire numbers are there also. There's one that may have been trimmed off (sometimes quire numbers are partially or fully trimmed during binding). But the quire numbers are orderly and I doubt that any of them relate to numerology.
-JKP- > 18-08-2019, 05:10 AM
Quote:Morten: JP, Do you agree that the 11 is followed by the letters mn? Well, I'm still waiting for you to explain what the mn means. Is it a standard Latin abbreviation of something? I don't see those letters following any of the other quire numbers? If you could kindly explain the mn, and if your explanation is credible, your argument would be much stronger.
Morten St. George > 18-08-2019, 10:45 AM
(18-08-2019, 05:10 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's an ordinal number. It's 11m9 .
The superscript is normal. It means 11th (like we add the "th" part in English). Like this 11th
The other quire numbers have it also. The 11 is no different from the other quire numbers.
The "9" at the end is the Latin abbreviation for "-us" So you have primus, secondus, tertius, etc. Sometimes it is n9 or m9 at the end as in septi[mus].
-JKP- > 18-08-2019, 11:37 AM
Morten St. George > 18-08-2019, 06:11 PM
(18-08-2019, 11:37 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I've done lots of reading on the Rosicrucians, and the Masons, and the Theosophists, and Edgar Cayce, and Nostradamus, and Edward Kelley, and anyone who is remotely weird, different, unusually intelligent, or interesting in other ways.
I don't think anyone was hiding anything in the quire numbers. I think that's your imagination talking. I think it's just a messy 9, probably added by the bookbinder's assistant or the person who acquired the VMS and wanted to get it bound. It is overall consistent with the other quire numbers and it doesn't really look like the tail-n on 116v. The stroke order is different.
-JKP- > 18-08-2019, 11:29 PM
Morten St. George > 19-08-2019, 03:18 AM
(18-08-2019, 11:37 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The stroke order is different.
Morten St. George > 19-08-2019, 03:28 AM
(18-08-2019, 11:29 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Some of the Holy Roman emperors chose German as the official language (rather than Latin) which means that people traveling to the capital to seek patronage or to conduct business were forced to use a language many of them didn't know. I sometimes wonder if this is what happened with the VMS. It's a mixture of Latin (which most scholars learned) and Romance and German (which many scholars did not know, since they learned Latin as the lingua franca and thus were more likely to choose a Romance language if they learned another one, because they are similar to Latin).