Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r
(19-12-2016, 06:11 AM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Stellar, how do you explain that your translation is in modern English vocabulary and spelling? For example, the website offers the word AIDS as a possible translation, yet we know that this word has been invented as late as 1982. 

Your method doesn't include a step where it is checked whether the words and spelling existed in the 15th century. So if one were to believe that your system is valid, one would also have to believe thatthe MS was made in the late 20th century. 

Sorry for being harsh, but this is a massive problem we cannot keep ignoring. If you believe the MS to be made in thr 15th century, you have to use 15th century spelling and vocabulary. And if you think it is a forgery by Voynich, you still cannot rely blindly on this site because it includes words which did not exist yet in Voynich' day.

Ok butting in again here, sorry.
There is an explanation for the modern vocabulary but that will come later.

And to Stellar your work IS very accurate so don't be put off. 

In the meantime I have translated the words fully at the top of the table put forward earlier without reference to the table, using my own method (has been described years ago so not going into it here).  It does unexpectedly however confirm Stellar's table of words and a set 7 words can be pulled out which are confirmed by the translation.  They are consistent with Stellar's work and his work is consistent with the common tread I mention.  In fact his work is more comprehensive than any I have seen in this matter.

I will put the translation and words pulled from his list later today when time.  It will not be the same as Stellar's choice because the manuscript allows different aspects to be seen.  It is factual and given the full word list a whole history could be pulled out.  This is not the mainstream academic approach be warned, but it is no ordinary manuscript, C15th or otherwise.

Bunny


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Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by stellar - 20-11-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Lament from the Sea, New Method! f2r - by bunny - 19-12-2016, 10:46 AM
Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:05 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 23-12-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 01-01-2017, 04:02 PM
RE: Saturn found in Stallar's results? - by bunny - 02-01-2017, 07:29 PM
Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:29 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 18-03-2017, 07:08 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 18-03-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 02:25 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 03:06 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 04:54 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 05:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by -JKP- - 19-03-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Letter Number Cipher's Exist - by stellar - 19-03-2017, 08:30 AM

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