17-12-2016, 10:40 AM
(17-12-2016, 02:17 AM)Witch Mountain wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[quote pid='9854' dateline='1481890627']
Thank you for the reply dear bunny. If you want to give Italy any grammatical gender (male, female, neuter) and any level of formality (formal, informal, intimate) I am fine with all that. But the grammatical person (1st 2nd 3rd) is a different matter. In this sentence, it seems clear he is talking about Italy, and its "banking line" (whatever that is). There is nothing to suggest that the speaker is talking to Italy, and if he was it would be very odd in Western European languages (cf. "England are great").
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I know you say you are just here for entertainment but I'll go into a bit more of an explanation though may remain as clear as mud. The banking line is House Medici, Medici at the time WAS Italy, Medici was famous and gave fame to Italy, particularly Florence. House Medici were famous and powerful and illuminated ones and have come up in relation to the manuscript. Italy/Medici was being addressed, in person and as a motherland (of the Medici, Dante and the manuscript). The exclusion of "thou" is not usual and odd but the information is factual. I can't give a reason for writing style maybe to be dramatic, compact or draw attention, that will have to remain undecided, but I will go with factual content is good enough for me.
Medici, Italy (thou) hast fame.
Why the thou/you left out may just be stylistic, but is less of an issue than the factual substance of the translation. I expect a lot more factual content to come from Stellar, maybe not found or presented in a traditional manner, but then I'm comparing content of people's findings.
You may want to lie down for a bit now. I am sorry it's not the standard academic line I have taken.
Bunny


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