Thank you, Linda, I agree. It is interesting that Diane thinks of this section as stars related to locations. So basically a combination of our both perspectives. No matter how we look at it, these illustrations are incredibly dense, and a multi-layered paradigm will be the only way to explain them - of that I am more convinced than anything else.
My feelings about your ideas are basically the same as yours about mine. I have always been horribly bad at geography and still know way too little about it to assess ideas based on itineraries. But I definitely remain open to the idea. There are still certain elements unexplained by my layers, so there could be more to it.
About repetition, in the five folios I understand more or less so far there are no repeats. It looks like each constellation has been used once. Though there are still many figures I'm not sure of, and constellations I havent found. For example, I have no Capricorn yet. Now I could slap "Capricorn" on one of them call it a day, but that's not how it works
It's still a work in progress, but I felt like I knew enough already to talk about it with some confidence. Also, I see no shame in admitting the things that are still unknown. I much rather hear an "I don't know what this is, after all I'm not a 15th century person so I can't understand all of it", than a vage guess put forward as a finished analysis.
Just an example:
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I know quite certain that this nymph represents a mourning woman on the myth level. She believes her sister has just died. The three objects in her hands would then be pomegranates, symbols of the underworld and so on. But I'm not so sure about the constellation level. By the placement of this nymph I can say with some certainty that she must be Leo, but how?
I could say that the base looks like a lion's tail, and perhaps it does. I could say that three apples are the attribute of Heracles and that the most famous lion in myth is the one he defeated. In fact the explanation for the lion being in the sky is that this is the lion defeated by Heracles. So the three apples link wouldn't be far fetched, and like that the attribute can work on both levels of meaning.
But she also has her hand very obviously in a tube, and I don't know what that means yet. And the hints towards Leo are not the most obvious. So I leave that one at 50% chance for now
My feelings about your ideas are basically the same as yours about mine. I have always been horribly bad at geography and still know way too little about it to assess ideas based on itineraries. But I definitely remain open to the idea. There are still certain elements unexplained by my layers, so there could be more to it.
About repetition, in the five folios I understand more or less so far there are no repeats. It looks like each constellation has been used once. Though there are still many figures I'm not sure of, and constellations I havent found. For example, I have no Capricorn yet. Now I could slap "Capricorn" on one of them call it a day, but that's not how it works
It's still a work in progress, but I felt like I knew enough already to talk about it with some confidence. Also, I see no shame in admitting the things that are still unknown. I much rather hear an "I don't know what this is, after all I'm not a 15th century person so I can't understand all of it", than a vage guess put forward as a finished analysis.
Just an example:
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I know quite certain that this nymph represents a mourning woman on the myth level. She believes her sister has just died. The three objects in her hands would then be pomegranates, symbols of the underworld and so on. But I'm not so sure about the constellation level. By the placement of this nymph I can say with some certainty that she must be Leo, but how?
I could say that the base looks like a lion's tail, and perhaps it does. I could say that three apples are the attribute of Heracles and that the most famous lion in myth is the one he defeated. In fact the explanation for the lion being in the sky is that this is the lion defeated by Heracles. So the three apples link wouldn't be far fetched, and like that the attribute can work on both levels of meaning.
But she also has her hand very obviously in a tube, and I don't know what that means yet. And the hints towards Leo are not the most obvious. So I leave that one at 50% chance for now