16-12-2016, 08:13 PM
I don't know about the Konstellation theory as I'm not well versed in mythology, although I have seen what I think are references to Greek myths or figures as well, so I think you should keep at it until you have an explanation for the entire quire. My own theory is also one that is not 'seen' by others so I am trying to relook at it all, but I am still coming up with generally related ideas. However that is not to say that even if I believe in my own interpretation, that I don't believe there could be another, or that there aren't other layers of meaning, for instance the body part idea that Ellie outlined, I checked it out against my own theory of the page order that resulted from my geographical one, and it fits too, the body parts seem to follow an order of occurrence from foot to head. Not sure what the combo would mean although I could make some guesses, like travelling will gain you knowledge? Maybe there is more to it as well. So I'd be interested to see what ordering of Konstellations across the quire results from your theory.
Do you see any recurrences of the same ones indicated? I'm interested because in that case it might line up with my perceived double tour across the Mediterranean. it could indicate related celestial navigatory markers, in which case it would be interesting to see how they line up with locations in my view of the quire. So I guess I'm saying be open to recurrence if you see it, don't dismiss it as already having been covered. Or even if it doesn't match my interpretation at all, the ordering would still be interesting, especially if a cohesive pattern results. In my own case I began by looking for the seven seas, and the page ordering that resulted gave way to the indications of specific travels in Italy and elsewhere that still fit the main theme of depicting relatively large water bodies, but which also updated the information to the time the MS was created, by including Lake Constance; making it a copy of something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue: a marriage of information, so to speak.
Those blue wave/wool things to me are all mountains & water runoff, though. I can see what Sam is saying about isolated occurrences vs the whole. But if you can show that the differences in each of these same- looking things are pertinent to your identification of them, (i.e. why is that mountain (or wave, or wool) shaped that way in particular, and answer that this one evokes depictions of Aries, and that one looks like whatever it does) then perhaps it is another layer of meaning you are uncovering. I have several times found more than one interpretation of a particular diagram, but these generally lead from one into the other. The one you say is Casseiopea, I see as Cassandra, due to her name being associated with two places seemingly depicted nearby the nymph, and with other coincidences regarding one of the referenced authors. Is it a coincidence that they are both Cassie's? I like that Casseiopea is a mother goddess, that theme seems to come up too. Of course I can't be certain whether I am creating that result myself from trying to fit the puzzle pieces together or whether it was intended, but when the final result resembles writings from antiquity, (in my case the tour that results resembles Hecataeus' Periodos Ges, in its two parts, first being Europe, then Asia (to India) and Africa in the second, both beginning and ending in Gibraltar. This is why it seems interesting to see indications of Hecate (namesake/related to crossroads, earth, sea, and sky) and Cassandra (accurate predictions not believed, as also happened with Hecataeus) but with updates added to those writings, Strabo comes in with Sagres Point taking the place of Gibraltar as the start/end point of the tour, whereas I see Cosmas' view of the world in the rosettes with Cadiz as the western end of the world and mount Sinai on the other) it seems too much of a coincidence, and I can see that you get the same feeling with your own matchings of puzzle pieces, so I'd like to see what it looks like when complete.
Do you see any recurrences of the same ones indicated? I'm interested because in that case it might line up with my perceived double tour across the Mediterranean. it could indicate related celestial navigatory markers, in which case it would be interesting to see how they line up with locations in my view of the quire. So I guess I'm saying be open to recurrence if you see it, don't dismiss it as already having been covered. Or even if it doesn't match my interpretation at all, the ordering would still be interesting, especially if a cohesive pattern results. In my own case I began by looking for the seven seas, and the page ordering that resulted gave way to the indications of specific travels in Italy and elsewhere that still fit the main theme of depicting relatively large water bodies, but which also updated the information to the time the MS was created, by including Lake Constance; making it a copy of something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue: a marriage of information, so to speak.
Those blue wave/wool things to me are all mountains & water runoff, though. I can see what Sam is saying about isolated occurrences vs the whole. But if you can show that the differences in each of these same- looking things are pertinent to your identification of them, (i.e. why is that mountain (or wave, or wool) shaped that way in particular, and answer that this one evokes depictions of Aries, and that one looks like whatever it does) then perhaps it is another layer of meaning you are uncovering. I have several times found more than one interpretation of a particular diagram, but these generally lead from one into the other. The one you say is Casseiopea, I see as Cassandra, due to her name being associated with two places seemingly depicted nearby the nymph, and with other coincidences regarding one of the referenced authors. Is it a coincidence that they are both Cassie's? I like that Casseiopea is a mother goddess, that theme seems to come up too. Of course I can't be certain whether I am creating that result myself from trying to fit the puzzle pieces together or whether it was intended, but when the final result resembles writings from antiquity, (in my case the tour that results resembles Hecataeus' Periodos Ges, in its two parts, first being Europe, then Asia (to India) and Africa in the second, both beginning and ending in Gibraltar. This is why it seems interesting to see indications of Hecate (namesake/related to crossroads, earth, sea, and sky) and Cassandra (accurate predictions not believed, as also happened with Hecataeus) but with updates added to those writings, Strabo comes in with Sagres Point taking the place of Gibraltar as the start/end point of the tour, whereas I see Cosmas' view of the world in the rosettes with Cadiz as the western end of the world and mount Sinai on the other) it seems too much of a coincidence, and I can see that you get the same feeling with your own matchings of puzzle pieces, so I'd like to see what it looks like when complete.
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